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Karl Akkerman
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: Looking for advice about self defence traning. |
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| Hi everyone. To start with I only have vary limited martial arts experience, that being one semester of Aikido as an undergrad in collage. However I do want to learn how to defend myself, as well as support my study of the sword, and so I would like to ask what advice you have on how to develop practical self defense skills? |
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RayMcCullough

Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 87 Location: Wetumpka, AL
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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I would start with the longsword, then go to Dagger and ringen. _________________ "The Lord is my strenght and my shield, my heart trusteth in Him and I am helped..." Psalms 28:7
"All fencing is done with the aid of God." Doebringer 1389 A.D. |
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Vagelis Baltatzis
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Posts: 20 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hallo if you look for selfdefense that it would be the best for the start if you learn (''Kampf'')Ringen(selfdefense without weapons).
With the time you can add also weapons like the knife or the longsword.
As a addition to you you can also train in french Savate (de Rue) , who is purely for selfdefense , and cane de combat ... |
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Steven Ott

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 48
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Self-defence first and foremost is getting out of bad situations. The best self-defense art is "track and field". Being physically able to move is first and foremost, so stretching; strength training and cardio are important. Modern self-defense should really have focus on modern weapons.
I really would like to learn La Canne. Those guys are graceful, deceptive and excellent fighters. _________________ In this life peace can never be an external force-only an internal source |
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Karl Akkerman
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| Steven Ott wrote: | Self-defence first and foremost is getting out of bad situations. The best self-defense art is "track and field". Being physically able to move is first and foremost, so stretching; strength training and cardio are important. Modern self-defense should really have focus on modern weapons.
I really would like to learn La Canne. Those guys are graceful, deceptive and excellent fighters. |
I fully understand that. Unless one is a Police officer or solider who's duty it is to confront criminals or enemy combatants one should always avoid a fight and even those professionals usually say that they wish to avoid such conflict.
Now my university is in a downtown city area and once I complete my masters degree I might find myself working in an urban area. However I grew up in and at the moment still live in a rural area. As such I don't have the street smarts of a regular city dweller or even the training to help me identify a potently dangerous locations or situations. What I worry about is that I will stumble into a situation without realizing the danger until it is to late.
Hence I would like to learn how to identify such situations so it can be avoided and pick up skills in how to get out of one safely and/or defend myself if I have no other choice. I am absolutely not looking for fights, that is just stupid.
On another note I have already started working on the stretching, strength training and cardio that you emphasized as I have been attending physical fitness classes for the past few months. This is all related to changes I have been making in how I am living my life that I have been working on all year.
As for actual training, in the past couple of days I did manage to track down what sounds like it might be a decent place for martial arts instruction in my area. It is eastern not western, teaching Tae Kwon DO and Ju Jitsu, but I am not going to disparage it for that. I am going to stop by tonight and see what they have to offer. |
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Vagelis Baltatzis
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Posts: 20 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Hallo Karl
yes you are right, looking for fights is stupid and this is not selfdefense ...
Selfdefense is selfdefense , fighting is fighting ....
I believe the human has a natural inctinkt in those situations and can avoid the danger if he will it ... But sure profesional seminars in selfdefense and how to deal with violence can help you very much to understand the violent mentality ....
here a good tipp
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/marcmacyoung.html
Best Regards
Vag |
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Karl Akkerman
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| Vagelis Baltatzis wrote: | Hallo Karl
yes you are right, looking for fights is stupid and this is not selfdefense ...
Selfdefense is selfdefense , fighting is fighting ....
I believe the human has a natural inctinkt in those situations and can avoid the danger if he will it ... But sure profesional seminars in selfdefense and how to deal with violence can help you very much to understand the violent mentality ....
here a good tipp
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/marcmacyoung.html
Best Regards
Vag |
Vag, thanks for the link. The information looks very interesting. I will be sure to read it all. |
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Steven Ott

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 48
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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One of the differences between eastern and western thoughts of self defense is that in the west you often see an emphasis to expand your horizons. In the east there seemed to be more, "Study my system and my system alone". Even here in the ARMA or HEMA few will tell you not to study anything else. If you want to study tae-kwon-do go for it. _________________ In this life peace can never be an external force-only an internal source |
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Keith Culbertson

Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 134 Location: Columbus OH
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JKD is excellent holistic training per Bruce's blending and practical intensity, my favorite for a long time---probably the closest to ARMA training philosophy, alongside military combatives _________________ Keith, SA |
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