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LafayetteCCurtis
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| Joshua Immanuel Gani wrote: | | The person in the Codex Wallerstein lock three person have no limb able to confront another attacker, he will have to disable one of the attacker before releasing the other.Can you clarify this techniques? |
Not unless you actually learn the technique--and the steps that led it. There's no way to grasp all the missing context if you look only at that one image and the accompanying text.
(Besides, fighting three people is pushing it, and the Codex probably included it mostly as an example of what to do in a desperate situation. By the time you get to four attackers and you're unarmed, you're probably better off trying to run away! |
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Sal Bertucci
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I had always assumed that this was a way for one man to hold three people who had already been captured i.e. in order to prevent their escape.
That being said I don't remember where that notion came from. |
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Joshua Immanuel Gani
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| The technique look like two hammerlocks and hammerlock with feet, I believe it would a good technique for holding people. |
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Michael Kelly
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Origins of Pankration, Kampfringen, and CCC wrestling |
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| Joshua Immanuel Gani wrote: | | Pankration looks like modern MMA because they feature punches,kicks, grappling and throwing techniques. it excel both in standing and ground fighting... |
(I know I'm coming late to the conversation but...)
It is impossible to know this. All we know of ancient Pankration is that it incorporated grappling and striking techniques and that anything short of attacking the groin and fish-hooking was legal. Outside of a few images on vases there is nothing to judge or reconstruct it by. It isn't like Medieval Martial Arts where descriptive and thorough manuals were left behind.
What Jim Arvanitis promotes as a revival of original Pakration probably isn't even a moderately close proximity since there was almost nothing to go by to revive it. He took elements from (American) Boxing, Greco-Roman wrestling, Muay-Thai, and Judo... Doesn't sound very Greek or even European to me. |
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Jaron Bernstein
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Origins of Pankration, Kampfringen, and CCC wrestling |
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| deleted post. John F. already mentioned the book I was going to suggest. |
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