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[matiaslozochile]

my name is matias bow of Santiago of Chile and I like the old fencing we are trying to form a training group of the fencing in Chile supported by Francisco uribe member of <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" /> [color="red"] [/color] arma that this of visit in Chile, if they can read this they support and they give advice to us to our group I take leave and I wait for an answer good bye
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[Brian Hunt]

Hi Matias,

good to see you are interested in historical fencing. What advice are you specifically looking for? Are you looking for training advice? How to organize your new group? A little more info than "Hi we exist, please support us" will help us help you.

Cheers.

Brian Hunt.
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[Jay Vail]

Welcome, Matias. We are always glad to hear from people sincerely interested in learning the old, true ways of fighting. Ask specific questions and there are many here who will be glad to help you find the answers.

[Francisco Uribe]

Hi guys,

As one deeply involved in the project Matias is telling about, I think that I should add that he is looking for info on how to set up a proper training sesion.

Matias and his friends are trying to jumpstart an ARMA study group in Chile. While they commence their training and apply for provisional group membership, I will be acting as their liason with ARMA.
Nonetheless I told them to ask for the advice of those better qualified than me, thus invited them to the ARMA forum.
So guys any help that you may wnat to offer to them (and me so I can help them better) will be most welcomed.

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[James Sterrett]

By "setting up a proper training session", do you mean the equipment needed? The kind of space needed? What sorts of things happen in a training session? I suspect you aren't getting a reply because people aren't sure what you need - I'm confused, at any rate. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

[Jaron Bernstein]

Hi Francisco! <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

Well, here is one model for a training session:

1. Stretching
2. Tiprogressions (transitioning from one ward to the next, in 360 degree circle)
3. Cutting along the segno
4. Footwork drills with and without the sword (simple step, passing step, triangle step, kokstep, etc.)
5. The waster press drill
6. Someone breaks out a manual and shows their interpretation of a given technique. Argue about it. Work the technique.
7. Padded sparring or waster free play! Lots of sparring and free play!
8. Finish up with a dagger or ringen technique from a manual, followed by either dagger sparring or wrestling.

That should be enough for a good 2+ hour training session.

Have someone be assigned every week to bring in something from a manual to show and work on.

[Randall Pleasant]

Matias and Francisco

I am very glad to hear about the formation of a study group in Chile. I do not disagree with Jaron but I would add the following since this is a new group with all new members.

Along with footwork and tiprogressions I would add that proper body &amp; weapon position in the guards should be a major focus. These are a foundation for all else to come. Any weaknesses here will be reflected in how techniques are learned.

Make sure everyone understands what the waster press drill is and is not. It is a drill to learn how to feel pressure in a bind and how to react to that pressure (should be a clear description of the drill somewhere on the ARMA site). The drill is not about competion or rough-house play - as such you will learn little and greatly increase risk of injury.

Free play and sparring is fun and keeps things interesting. However, they should take a back seat to other things during the early period of the group. Most of all do not forget that sparring within the group should always be a part of training. You spar to learn. Don't let sparring become mindless rough-house play.

Good luck

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[matiaslozochile]

I give to thanks the welcome them and the advice will try to expose the doubts and advances that we have thank you very much with the group
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matias lazo
el chileno

[Jaron Bernstein]

Bueno Suerte con la grupa (if my very feeble Spanish is correct! <img src="/forum/images/icons/tongue.gif" alt="" /> ),

Our local study group follows that model and we have had some luck. You may want to travel if possible to a 1.0 seminar, or have the excellent Franciso (who has been to one) come to you and go over the material.

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[Francisco Uribe]

Thanks for the advice everybody.
More specifically what we want is examples of excercises and drills that can be applied during a training session.
Any advice and examples will be helpful for Matias and his people. Keep in mind that they are not ARMA members yet and they are just starting on this RMA bussines.

Regarding ARMA Chile, I can say that I've train 3 times with Matias and his group and it looks promising. They have a lot of enthusiasm and interest. I'm pleased to say that they are starting with 10 people . I hope it keeps going that way.
They will apply for a provisional study group membership. With enough luck, we hope to get full membership within 12-18 months and hold an official ARMA event down in Chile.

So guys, I beg for any help and advice you may offer to my countrymen!

Francisco
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[Jaron Bernstein]

"More specifically what we want is examples of excercises and drills that can be applied during a training session."

1. Footwork (have you shown them the various steps yet?)
2. Tiprogressions from guard to guard, both static and moving.
3. The press drill
4. The meisterhau (have ye shown them those yet?)

[Jaime Undurraga]

Hi.... my name is Jaime Undurraga, from Chile... its a pleasure begin to traning the ARMA style. I hope develop this marcial art and learn a lot in this forum...

[Shane Smith]

Welcome.
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