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here is a link to Mair:

http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/bsb00006570/images/

It starts from image 475

This may have been known to others already but it was new to me: I noticed the other day that P. H. Mair's ringen section is, plate for plate, identical to that of Fabian von Auerswald (of which there is a very decent translation online). Just thought I'd put that out there since I haven't found a t...

To clarify on my last post: I'm not saying that Ringen should look more like BJJ. I understand that the ground was the last place you wanted to be on the battlefield, and still is in modern day self-defense application IMO. But if the ground is where you don't want to be then you have to practice te...

That’s not to say that I believe historical European grapplers to be unskilled or bad. I simply believe that their emphasis was on standing grappling & pins. The presence of daggers in combat grappling made extended ground fighting unnecessary. That's part of my point. They found it neccesary t...

Thanks for all the great tips guys.

Stewart, I'm hoping to have a practice partner soon, but until then (and if he falls through) I was looking for something I could practice alone.

I know this may be a silly question, but does anyone know any solo grappling drills.

Good points Stewart, thanks.

I was looking through some of the manuals and I noticed that there seems to be a lack of small joint manipulation ( ie wrist locks and the such) with the exception of one or two finger dislocations. Does anyone have any thoughts on this. I don't have any experience in armored fighting and don't unde...

Thanks for the translation and the education on Pacha and Petter.

Tom Keesler

Stewart Sackett wrote:
I think it's reasonable to train escapes from bottom & joint locks from a secure pin as part of the study of Ringen but the emphasis (on the ground) should be pin & stab.

The emphasis in any fight should be survival.
I don't think our acestors looked at it any other way.

I know this thread has been pretty dormant for several months now, but this is something I feel is worth bringing back up. It seem that everytime someone mentions ground fighting everyones' initial reaction, illustration, or comparrison is BJJ. Just because historical European ground fighting may no...

Posted at the request of ARMA Director John Clements: I regret to be the bearer of sad news this Easter weekend, but I was given very unfortunate information this morning, and have since had it confirmed by reliable sources: It is with great sadness that I pass along news of the passing of Paul Cha...

I would even say that the Japanese break-falls and rolls are effective for negotiating wooden gym-floors. But like anything, they have their limits, e.g. do not expect them to save you from injury on concrete, stone, gravel. :wink: Yes, it seems like certain basic stuff like break-falls were likely...

There are a few things to consider before devising such a system for Ringen. The scholars and students who currently study this art concentrate on either the Medieval or Renaissance period. Do we therefore then use the Medieval or the Renassance lessons when creating this system? These questions ne...

This is great!!!! I really don't know how else to say it. GREAT!