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Matt_Bruskotter
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Last page of Dobringer

Postby Matt_Bruskotter » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:35 pm

I had a question about the last page of the Dobringer manual. Is Doebringer describing how to have a practice when he says that if you wanted to fence someone is school or play? What exercises is he describing? I can't understand any of it on how to run the drills he's describing. Any help would be great! Thanks!

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Re: Last page of Dobringer

Postby Joachim Nilsson » Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:50 pm

It seems like he is describing how to fence while in school yes, but at the same time he implies that the same stuff can be very useful when fighting in earnest.

As we do not know exactly how they trained it is a bit tricky to point to a possible description of one specific exercise. You can, however, pratice that which he describes by praticing tip progressions (only using Pflug and Ochs and moving through the Shrankhuten on either side). So what he basically is describing is how to approach your opponant once you have passed the Zufechten range (i.e. when your too close for using Vom Dach). He is also referring back to how important he thinks it is to not be standing around in a static guard. In other words he's reminding the reader of this paragraph:

Here note that constant motion [Frequens Motus] holds the beginning, middle and end of all fencing according to this art and teaching.

-17v


You can pratice this by moving across the floor while chaning guard with each step. Like so: Start in right hand side Pflug, left leg leading. Take a passing step forwards so that your right leg becomes your left leg while simultaneously transitioning up into a left hand side Ochs (or left hand side Pflug if you so prefer). Then switch to a right hand side Ochs or Pflug as you take another step forward. Earlier in the longsword section of his fechtbuch, Döbringer sresses the importance of always threatinging your opponant with the tip of your sword, and here, at the end, he clues you in on how to move about while maintaining that particular threat. Constantly changing between Pflug, Ochs and Shrankhut once you are close enough can be very unsettling for the enemy since the constant motion of your sword and body can be very confusing.

Work a lot with the Zwerchau and, more importantly, practice throwing multiple strikes. This can be done solo or with a partner.

Both the tip progression drill as well as the cutting drill can be done with a partner. Take for instance the tip progression drill: You can start out by moving towards your partner who keeps retreating till he reaches the end of wherever you are praticing. Then it's vice versa. The two drills can later on be combined (both as free play and as sparring exercises) where the two of you try to outwit, and outcut, the opponant by moving through the guards while approaching and circling him, only to whip out a couple of quick Zwerchhauen.

I hope I could clear some of your questions up. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

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