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Shane Smith
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Postby Shane Smith » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:32 am

Here in VAB, we have always concenrated on longsword because many of us saw the rapier as a sissified and unmanly weapon. After seeing John fence with one, as well as fencing against him while he was so armed, I changed my mind. At about that same time, a couple of new group members expressed an interest in rapier. Well, Matt suggested that we integrate it slowly at first with just a few concepts and techniques at the end of our regular sessions. We progressed in this way for some time and once we became somewhat competent, we really came to respect the weapon.

As an extension to learning, we brought John Clements in for a rapier-specific seminar here locally and he really brought it home for us. He first explained to us, and then demonstrated in adversarial freeplay just how common many concepts between longsword and rapier can be. In fact, when I told him before the seminar that I was not too terribly skilled with rapier nor was our local group, he said; "well, you're pretty good with a longsword and that means you're pretty good with a rapier too...you just don't realize it yet". He was right(As he is more often than not in my experience)! Once he tweaked the concepts for us, we really found we were much more competent than we had given ourselves credit for.

To this day, I prefer my longsword and will fence anyone with anything with confidence. I must admit however,that the rapier has it's place with me and our local group. Besides, since I learned to use one, I've learned how to defend against one too and that is critical even if you don't intend to be a rapier fencer in earnest. I likewise have observed that a good Swordsman is dangerous no matter what weapon you hand him because he knows how to handle himself in an efficient manner :wink:
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Postby Jaron Bernstein » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:39 am

Benjamin Smith wrote:Thank you everyone for the help, reccomendations, and correction, I'll start making the changes immediately. Thank you for pointing out the reference to myself as an instructor Randall, I didn't realize I'd done that in the post, I've never gone by a title of any kind, at any meeting, I won't do that again.


If you really do want to do polearms:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Combat-Germ ... F8&s=books

Meyer has a full chapter starting with staff, then halberd and pike, with detailed instruction and cool pictures.

His staff is very different from Swetnam in that it uses far more big strikes so it is worth reading both for comparison.

Happy training! :wink:


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