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Max Lancaster
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Short Sword Fighting?

Postby Max Lancaster » Tue May 01, 2007 2:45 pm

Is there a Manuel or anyone who know's anything about this?

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Postby Brian Hunt » Tue May 01, 2007 3:46 pm

depends upon what you mean by a short sword. Are you asking about a single handed arming sword, a cut and thrust sword, etc. As for single handed swords, you have Fiore, any and all messer manuals, you have sword and buckler found in many manuals with the most extesive being the I.33, you have your cut and thrust manuals such as Digrassi.

Rather broad question, if you try and narrow down what you are looking for I could better help you.

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Postby Max Lancaster » Tue May 01, 2007 5:53 pm

I don't even know all to well.
I guess like a weapon size to what the Gladius was about the size of.
Single handed and a real short blade.

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Postby Brian Pardue » Tue May 01, 2007 6:05 pm

This is one of the things I alluded to in my recent post, I and a friend practice spear and shield and short sword and shield (short sword being less than 3' in length i.e. the gladius, kopis, falcata, etc). This style of sword can be wielded both aggresively and with much intent when included with a full sized, bowl shaped shield and with full intent regarding shield slaming and grappling of the weapon arm and/or shield.

We have been experimenting (no recorded knowledge that I have found) with these styles and have found them to be exhilaratingly fun and helpful in establishing a well rounded fighting style.

I would love to know if there are any manuals regarding this style as well.

Brian

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Postby Jeffrey Hull » Wed May 02, 2007 3:50 pm

I think Brian H. is right -- if you study sword & buckler works then those pretty much teach you how to use the "shortsword" that comes to mind as typically Medieval -- 20 to 28 inch blade, single-handed grip, simple straight or curved cross, nice wheel pommel. Plus study of messer also shows you many analogous and helpful things.
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Postby Mike Cartier » Wed May 02, 2007 6:24 pm

meyer has a whole section on the Dusack
So we love it :)

We have a short article on the guards here.
http://arma-sfl.com/dusack_guards.html

Dusack represents itself as well as Messer fighting techniques.
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Postby LafayetteCCurtis » Fri May 04, 2007 10:07 am

This is a funny issue, really. Remember how Silver calls his primary weapon the "short sword," even though the "short" probably reers to nothing else than the fact that it's a one-handed sword with a relatively ordinary (i.e. stil lrather long) blade length?

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Postby Allen Johnson » Fri May 04, 2007 12:36 pm

silver's short sword is about 35" long not including the handle. These broadswords were very similar in blade size and attributes to many medieval single handers. Just with basket hilts.
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Postby LafayetteCCurtis » Sat May 05, 2007 8:53 am

Ack. How did the period at the end of my last post turn into a question mark? I was stating that the blade length of Silver's prescribed sword was quite normal by Renaissance standards!


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