Steel weapon Iconography in the Italian painting 1350-1600

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Steel weapon Iconography in the Italian painting 1350-1600

Postby Gianluca Zanini » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:43 pm

For those who migh be interest I post a selection of italian painting
where you can find a lot images of blade weapons
http://www.forumartimarziali.com/forum/index.php?topic=22538.0

Enjoy

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Re: Steel weapon Iconography in the Italian painting 1350-16

Postby Jaron Bernstein » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:06 pm

Gianluca Zanini wrote:For those who migh be interest I post a selection of italian painting
where you can find a lot images of blade weapons
http://www.forumartimarziali.com/forum/index.php?topic=22538.0

Enjoy

Gian


These paintings are beautiful! :D

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Postby Risto Rautiainen » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:24 am

That posta di donna is a good find!

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Postby Gianluca Zanini » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:49 am

Risto Rautiainen wrote:That posta di donna is a good find!



Exaclty what I thought when I found it!
Note the left foot rising to gain power for the downward fendente.
Note even the similarity with posta di donna of Getty's plate.
I would like to know where is his left hand :(


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Beheading of Saint Cosmas and Saint Damian
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Postby Keith Culbertson » Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:19 am

I have definitely seen a few of these before, especially fond of the large battle scene with the sword vs warhammer knights. Great overall mix of media too--thank you for the collection

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Re: Steel weapon Iconography in the Italian painting 1350-16

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:35 pm

Excellent gallery!

Yes, the warhammer versus sword encounter ahorse was something discussed in a post somewhere in the past.

BTW: Now, as then, I still maintain that the man with the sword is displacing the strike of the man with the hammer, and not the other way around. :wink:

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Postby Mike Cartier » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:20 am

wow what a great collection, good work and thanks.

what is with those images of Infanticide? thats kinda creepy, whats the story behind it?
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Postby Gianluca Zanini » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:00 pm

Mike Cartier wrote:what is with those images of Infanticide? thats kinda creepy, whats the story behind it?


First I have to say that I am not an expert of historical painting, and I post it in order to show some finds about weaponry and such.
When you do not have academic titles , you have to be careful in those period... :)

It is a massacre of the innocents
http://www.copia-di-arte.com/a/beato-angelico/the-massacre-of-the-innoc.html

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Postby John_Clements » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:49 pm

Actually...as I was showing Jake Norwood & others at our recent Gathering, I've made a collection of about 100 images from the period of this very stance. I'll be using them in an article examining perspective & depth in historical combat art soon.

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Postby Craig Shukas » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:07 pm

Mike Cartier wrote:wow what a great collection, good work and thanks.

what is with those images of Infanticide? thats kinda creepy, whats the story behind it?


The infanticide is a Biblical reference to the slaughter of the innocents. You know before JC (no, not John Clements) was born King Herod had all the kids killed to stop a new king of the Jews. Biblical armor is, thankfully for us, never historically accurate. It’s as though a bible published today would show all the solders dressed in camo with M16’s.

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Postby Chris Moritz » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:53 am

Caravaggio (1571-1610)

The Betrayal of Christ. 1602-1603
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Portrait of Alof de Wignacourt. c.1607-1608
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Portrait of a Knight of Malta. c.1608
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