another rather cool video

[Jay Vail]

Here's something that ought to be of interest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5FIyfI8TA

[Will Adamson]

A bit more edge bashing than their last video, but still better than most of the stuff out there. If these are stunt guys, I wish they could get into some Snotywood stuff to up the standards of our sword flicks. Anything would be better than what we've been exposed to thus far.

That would be a great location for a study group practice!

[Richard Strey]

If these are stunt guys[...]

What makes you think they are stunt guys? Their intro says "Gladiatores - Historical European Martial Arts", they offer excerpts from Mscr. Dresd. C 487 and Cod MS 44 A 8 (even with an English translation, which *they* surely don't need) and offer the moves bit by bit. All around, I find this video to be the best presentation of Liechtenauer stuff on the Web. Source, transcription, translation and interpretation are presented in a clear and easy-to-follow manner. The very thought that these guys might "just be stunt guys and not enlightened fencers like us" leaves me dumbfounded, all differences in interpretation aside.

BTW, I did't see any "edge bashing" in the vid. Edge-to-edge contact (as described in the manual), yes.

[Sripol Asanasavest]

Great video, showing off the techniques. Those swords are really big; it's a surprise how they are able swing and block really well. I wonder how effective it is against a lighter and faster weapon like a rapier or a dagger or even a smaller sword. For me I prefer something a little smaller, easier to handle...something that I can use really well with one hand if need be. I believe that's why the rapier was developed, is it not?

[Will Adamson]

If these are stunt guys[...]

What makes you think they are stunt guys? Their intro says "Gladiatores - Historical European Martial Arts", they offer excerpts from Mscr. Dresd. C 487 and Cod MS 44 A 8 (even with an English translation, which *they* surely don't need) and offer the moves bit by bit. All around, I find this video to be the best presentation of Liechtenauer stuff on the Web. Source, transcription, translation and interpretation are presented in a clear and easy-to-follow manner. The very thought that these guys might "just be stunt guys and not enlightened fencers like us" leaves me dumbfounded, all differences in interpretation aside.

BTW, I did't see any "edge bashing" in the vid. Edge-to-edge contact (as described in the manual), yes.

Umm, that was not the direction of my statement. If I remember correctly, their website states that they are a stunt performers. I was expressing my hope that the film folks in Kalifournia would use these guys for their sword fighting scenes over what is currently put out. I don't see how that can be construed as anything but support for these guys.

As far as the edge stuff, look at the zorn-zorn plays at the end of the video. When you are doing full arm cuts that contact on the edges, that is bashing. I'm pretty sure that was the only instance that I saw, but some of the pics in their website show them doing it. These may of course be out of context.

[Steve Fitch]

I really love these guys.

I have seen these vids before.

[Jeremiah Backhaus]

They seemed to take too long when going into a hengen they brought the tip around their heads instead of just raising the hilt into position. A waste of energy that could be immediately transferred into a Zwerch. Other than that, the work in the binden was neat to watch.

[Jaron Bernstein]

They seemed to take too long when going into a hengen they brought the tip around their heads instead of just raising the hilt into position. A waste of energy that could be immediately transferred into a Zwerch. Other than that, the work in the binden was neat to watch.

It looked a heck of a lot better than most of the WMA video out there on youtube. Plus that background! What a place to train

[Will Adamson]

This one looks pretty good for the most part. I like how they put it in a self defense context and the intensity seems pretty high.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ninIXOkWg

[JeremyDillon]

This one looks pretty good for the most part. I like how they put it in a self defense context and the intensity seems pretty high.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ninIXOkWg

That's a pretty cool movie. The final "duel" fight was pretty edge-on-edge heavy, though. They certainly were well rehearsed.