Fight scenes in movies, and related topics

[Jonathan_Kaplan]

Hello, I was wondering if there were any movies that had fight scenes that are less terrible than most movie fight scenes. I also want to know if anyone here has tried to get into the cinematography scene in any sort of way, with the goal of differentiating themselves from most cinematographers out there in their style. I also want to know if there are any writeups of move by move critiques of some well known movie fight scene, something that I can rent the DVD and read and go back and forth second by second. Also, has anyone with the knowledge that you all possess ever "rewritten" a movie fight scene (like in writing or whatnot) in such a way to be more plausible, while maintaining the basic pacing, outcome, and dramatic content? Does anyone here have any interest in trying to do these sorts of things to create something mainstream? It seems to me that if I were a cinematographer wanting to create a fight scene that looks different than other ones, that I would find sites like this fertile ground for cherrypicking ideas.

Any thoughts or responses? Thanks!

[JeremyDillon]

http://www.thearma.org/forum/viewtopic. ... =hollywood
Here's a link to a topic in which we were discussing this very thing.

[Jonathan_Kaplan]

*blink blink*

I mentioned like eight topics in my post... you all talk about all of them there?

*goes to check*

edit: guess not... though I'm sure I can copy this for that topic. Sorry for not looking for earlier threads on this topic!

[Mark Driggs]

Allen Johnson in SC has done some consulting/work in that line. Unfortunately, there are a lot of barriers to entry for working on fights within films. Most film-makers are more interested in the choreography of stage-fighters than seeking a more historically accurate depiction.

[Jay Vail]

Hello, I was wondering if there were any movies that had fight scenes that are less terrible than most movie fight scenes. I also want to know if anyone here has tried to get into the cinematography scene in any sort of way, with the goal of differentiating themselves from most cinematographers out there in their style. I also want to know if there are any writeups of move by move critiques of some well known movie fight scene, something that I can rent the DVD and read and go back and forth second by second. Also, has anyone with the knowledge that you all possess ever "rewritten" a movie fight scene (like in writing or whatnot) in such a way to be more plausible, while maintaining the basic pacing, outcome, and dramatic content? Does anyone here have any interest in trying to do these sorts of things to create something mainstream? It seems to me that if I were a cinematographer wanting to create a fight scene that looks different than other ones, that I would find sites like this fertile ground for cherrypicking ideas.

Any thoughts or responses? Thanks!

Jonathon, we have talked this subject to death. The bottom line appears to be that the movie industry is really set in its ways and it is hard for newcomers with different ways of doing things to break in. Allen has posted on the topic many times, explaining the woes of newbie fight directors and the forces limiting their discretion.

[Mark Driggs]

http://www.thearma.org/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=
Here is an older post relevant to your interests.