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Charles Murdock
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Quarterstaff Question

Postby Charles Murdock » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:09 am

Could anyone tell me what the dimensions on an English Quarterstaff were/are? Was there a standard length and diameter or a range?

Thanks so much,

Charles

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Postby Benjamin Smith » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:40 am

This is kind of tricky. You get different definitions depending on who you read, however, the three primary lengths of staff used in England (and the rest of Europe for that matter) are 1) About your height, erring on the long side, about 2 meters (6 ft), 2) as far as you can reach above your head and then some, just under 2.7-3 meters (8-9 ft), and 3) A 3.5+ meter staff (12-16 ft) think the kind of staff for a really long anti-cavalry pike. All of these are mentioned in German sources. The short kind seem to have been common in English iconography and are what were used in Victorian times, the 2nd and 3rd varieties are mentioned in George Silver's manual, but are called "short" and "long" staffs respectively.

As for which of these is the "Quarter Staff" I've heard two apocryphal answers, so take them with a grain of salt: 1) the really short first option, the kind you could keep in your quarters and use relatively easily there, 2) the middle length, because you hold approximately the bottom quarter or a quarter of it between your hands. I have no idea as to if either or none of those is accurate, it's just what I've heard. If somebody knows a good source that uses both the name and the length that would be very welcome.
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Postby David_Knight » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:48 am

Actually, it's not tricky at all since the question specifically asked about English quarterstaff, the term most people use to refer to a "short staff."

The perfect length depends on you. The Englishman George Silver directly addresses your question in his 1599 Paradoxes of Defence:

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"To know the perfect length of your short staff, or half pike, forest bill, partisan, or glaive, or such like weapons of vantage and perfect lengths, you shall stand upright, holding the staff upright close by your body, with your left hand, reaching with your right hand your staff as high as you can, and then allow to that length a space to set both your hands, when you come to fight, wherein you may conveniently strike, thrust, and ward, & that is the just length to be made according to your stature. And this note, that these lengths will commonly fall out to be eight or nine foot long, and will fit, although not just, the statures of all men without any hindrance at all unto them in their fight, because in any weapon wherein the hands may be removed, and at liberty, to make the weapon longer of shorter in fight at his pleasure, a foot of the staff being behind the backmost hand does no harm. And wherefore these weapons ought to be of the lengths aforesaid, and no shorter, these are the reasons: If they should be shorter, then the long staff, morris pike, and such like weapons over and above the perfect length, should have great advantage over them, because he may come boldly and safe without any guard or ward, to the place where he may thrust home, and at every thrust put him in danger of his life, then can the long staff, the morris pike, or any longer weapon lie nowhere within the compass of the true cross, to cross and uncross, whereby he may safely pass home to the place, where he may strike or thrust him that has the long weapon, in the head, face, or body at his pleasure."
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Postby David_Knight » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:09 pm

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Postby Charles Murdock » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:13 pm

Thanks for the quick answers!

-Charles

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Postby Cooper Braun » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:25 pm

I like to note that you will notice that Silver's "staff" has both top and bottom spikes, making it a very functional spear.


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