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Scott A. Richardson
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Postby Scott A. Richardson » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:03 pm

Welcome, Damian, and excellent work on your craftmenship. I look forward to seeing more of your superb work.
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Damian Gallo
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Postby Damian Gallo » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:09 pm

Hello Lance,
I need to ask you some more questions:

So that is a sword that is good in trusting against male armor, not plate armor?
Is there any sword that you have seen specificaly made to penetrate plate armour? and do you have any idea of it´s distal taper and thickness (if tere is such a sword)? I personally don´t think you could penetrate a modern plate armor that has been heat treated, but the ancient armor wasn´t always heat treated.

I ask you that because I have handled my swords and I have seen the diferent flexibility that you are able to give them in acordance to the distal taper and thickness of the blade, but i don´t have the impresion and the perception of a person like you that have been using the acient techniques and have felt diferent swords in hand.
I personaly like the sword to be straigth at any moment, so I am thinking in make my version of the brescia spadona a little more thicker. Just a little to not make it to heavy. I could also made 3 fullers like in the medieval sword that I have posted but it may be affect the beautiful shape the blade has.

Thank you,

Damián

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Postby Lance Chan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:11 pm

It is a sword I feel that was mainly designed for unarmored or light armored combat. When thrusting at leather wrapped pork arm, the blade will flex a bit. The tip is narrow enough to go through some mail, perhaps, but the blade doesn't seem to be stiff enough to rip a mail open.

An estoc / tuck would be quite ideal for a plate armor perhaps. :P They're very thick though. I don't have a sample on hand to give you data about it. :S

Damian Gallo wrote:Hello Lance,
I need to ask you some more questions:

So that is a sword that is good in trusting against male armor, not plate armor?
Is there any sword that you have seen specificaly made to penetrate plate armour? and do you have any idea of it´s distal taper and thickness (if tere is such a sword)? I personally don´t think you could penetrate a modern plate armor that has been heat treated, but the ancient armor wasn´t always heat treated.

I ask you that because I have handled my swords and I have seen the diferent flexibility that you are able to give them in acordance to the distal taper and thickness of the blade, but i don´t have the impresion and the perception of a person like you that have been using the acient techniques and have felt diferent swords in hand.
I personaly like the sword to be straigth at any moment, so I am thinking in make my version of the brescia spadona a little more thicker. Just a little to not make it to heavy. I could also made 3 fullers like in the medieval sword that I have posted but it may be affect the beautiful shape the blade has.

Thank you,

Damián
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Ken Dietiker
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Postby Ken Dietiker » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:13 am

Damian,

Nice work! Especially for just a hobby.

Here is another source that I trust will give you as much information as you would ask. Tinker is a decent sword maker, very knowledgeable and is very open to questions and will be happy to give answers to all your questions. He enjoys networking and helping others learn the craft. Here is his web site:

http://www.tinkerswords.com/


Cheers!
Ken

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Postby Damian Gallo » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:05 am

Hello, How are you?


Lance, thank you for the information, I had imagined that the brescia spadona wasn´t for figthing against plate armour. Something to figth against plate armour (not exactly a estoc / tuck) could be the The Svante Nilsson Sword, but I don´t think just for trusting but for cutting with a extraordinary impact force. It has a thickness of 1,19 cm (blade 85 cm) at base but I prefer something less heavy. Something like the brescia spadona with a litlle more thickness.

I am going to start this new project and I will give you photos of the process.

Thank you Ken for the data, I found it very intresting and I also found a very high quality work, with the data that I needed.

Bye,

Damián


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