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Stewart Sackett
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Postby Stewart Sackett » Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:55 pm

Matt Bryant wrote:And wait 'till you grapple with it!


Please expand on this, or even start a new thread in the unarmed section about this. I like this stance for fencing but haven't found it particularly comfortable to grapple from, partially because I'm more familiar with a rather square stance when grappling. I'd be very interested to hear how people are putting Vaage to use in Ringen.
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Alan Forbes
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Postby Alan Forbes » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:02 am

Another valuable contribution to HEMA first adopted and then institutionalized by ARMA. Congratulations. This sounds like something that has potentional to become a foundational standard for HEMA. I can't wait to read JC's paper.

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Postby Roy Stewart » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:05 pm

We've been playing around with a bit of push and shove using the outward stance and it gives a lot more power and a faster response, as well as greater stability and less telegraphing.

While waiting for the new ARMA essay we are doing hundreds of squats, duck walks, passing steps, shuffles, leaps and so on with the toes out in order to strengthen the legs, and it certainly gives a better leg/thigh/hip/stomach workout than the regular parallel footed stance in my opinion.

My wife Emma noticed that the Scottish sword dancing techniques use the toes outward stance as well, no doubt with good reason .

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Postby Jaron Bernstein » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:34 pm

Roy Stewart wrote:We've been playing around with a bit of push and shove using the outward stance and it gives a lot more power and a faster response, as well as greater stability and less telegraphing.

While waiting for the new ARMA essay we are doing hundreds of squats, duck walks, passing steps, shuffles, leaps and so on with the toes out in order to strengthen the legs, and it certainly gives a better leg/thigh/hip/stomach workout than the regular parallel footed stance in my opinion.

My wife Emma noticed that the Scottish sword dancing techniques use the toes outward stance as well, no doubt with good reason .

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Duck walking is destructive to your knee cartilage. I would advise against it.

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Postby Roy Stewart » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:46 pm

It's actually the crow walk we have ben doing rather than the lower duck walk , my mistake .

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Postby CalebSlagle » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:45 am

Stewart Sackett wrote:
Matt Bryant wrote:And wait 'till you grapple with it!


Please expand on this, or even start a new thread in the unarmed section about this. I like this stance for fencing but haven't found it particularly comfortable to grapple from, partially because I'm more familiar with a rather square stance when grappling. I'd be very interested to hear how people are putting Vaage to use in Ringen.


I have also noticed the advantages of this over here (Alabama) as well. In fact right after John showed it to me the first thing I thought of was the grappling implications. My own research and experience concurs with Stewart’s comments.


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