The Padded Weapon Dilemma;

[JeanryChandler]

Good "point"! <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

The lacrosse helmet I use has a kind of hanging plate which covers the front of the neck fairly well but I agree a gorget is a good idea. My sparring partner lenny uses a steel one.

Jeanry

[JeanryChandler]

I really enjoyed the ability to work with the flats of the blades on these padded wasters and the guard is perfect for doing techniques out of the kron, off of the guard. I was also impressed that they showed no signs of breaking down and they felt very stout during binds and strikes. I am confident that these will hold up for a long time, well worth the money invested- thanks again Jeanry, now if you could just get them dipped..... later, Aaron

Thanks for posting your evaluation here Aaron, I really appreciate the kind words. I'll look forward to hearing your evaluation of the roundel daggers.

I was wondering, has anyone made padded wasters based on the design I posted here?

jeanry

P.S. By dipped do you mean latex?

[Randall Pleasant]

Jaron Bernstein wrote:
Just a safety tip on getting hit in the throat. If you ever get hit in the windpipe and can't breath (whether in a fight or just training), close you mouth and breath through your nose.

Jaron

Given that the mouth and nose both lead into the same end of the windpipe what is the advanage of closing your mouth when your windpipe is crushed? Would you not want as much air as possible? Is your statement based upon actual medical knowledge or is this something you heard?

[Aaron Pynenberg]

Hello, by dipped I did mean a latex type coating over the padding, instead of the tape.

As far as helmets I use a goalie type mask which has extended throat protection built into it- It is also much more stout then the regular type masks.

Gary also found an interesting web site check this out:

www.guardup.com They have a sports sword section that is very interesting also check out the bmx type of protection they are using-might be something to check intp foe spirited waster fighting?- the helmets they sell are very similar to the helmet I use and it works very well- later Aaron

[JeanryChandler]

Hello, by dipped I did mean a latex type coating over the padding, instead of the tape.

It's funny you mention that...

I have experimented with latex for about a year now. The only way i know of right now to use it is to paint it on with a sponge brush, then seal it afterword with a type of flexible polyeurethane varnish. The results have been acceptable if not spectacular (they certainly look a LOT better) but the process of making them is incredibly time consuming. I'm actually working on a latex Gladius right now for a memer of a Roman re-enactment group, and it's such a pain in the arse it's not worth it even if I had charged the guy twice as much.

The latex goes on in coats not much thicker than house paint, so you have to put on like 20 layers to make it thick enough for heavy sparring. Between each layer you have to let the weapon dry for about two hours, and be sure to hit any droplets forming with your brush... and while drying, it cannot touch anything or it will stick and then peel off.

The latex is also expensive, (as is the special liquitex varnish) instantly ruins clothes and also as a final bonus, is cut with some kind of horrrid smelling ammonia. Plus you have to buy it from Fetish houses which has probably put me on some wierd FBI lists ... . <img src="/forum/images/icons/blush.gif" alt="" />

In short, I think latex may ultimtely have some promise, but I have yet to figure out how to use it in a cost effective / time effective way.

If there WAS some functional and not too expensive way to dip it or to spray it on that would be very interesting....

DB

[Jaron Bernstein]

Hi Randall, <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Not from any medical study. And if your windpipe is completely crushed, then probably not. But from a mild shot to the windpipe that gives that "icky" feeling and slight breathing difficulty it seems to work. Someone told me about this 3 years ago and it works for me at least. Try it out on yourself. Hit yourself in the windpipe hard enough to cause some discomfort but not so hard to crush it. Then breath alternately through your mouth only and then your nose only.

[Randall Pleasant]

Jaron

Well.......I do agree that it is testable but for now I think I'll pass on conducting any tests. <img src="/forum/images/icons/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /> If the situation comes up in practice I'll give it a try. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" />

[JeanryChandler]

I have a real simple website put together now for anyone who wants to buy one of my weapons. The how-to is already up and linked in another thread, but I'll be updating that shortly as well.

I didn't know if it was ok for me to post a link here to my swords or not, can I do so?

Jeanry

[Webmaster]

Go ahead Jeanry, it's of relevant interest to the topic and the members.

[JeanryChandler]

Here is the link to my catalog of weapons

http://www.iregames.com/jr/swordwebsite.htm

The website is pretty primitive but will improve over time.

If you are interested in buying a weapon PM me or email me at cugel23 at bellsouth dot net (spelled out to avoid spambots). I do combine shipping. Feel free to ask me any questions here or privately. My designs are public domain and I am happy to explain how to make the weapons to anyone interested (I have posted a couple of how-to's as well)
Jeanry

[TimSheetz]

Jeanry,

I made couple of weapons with your design.

I'll be testing them tomorrow and thursday!

Tim

[JeanryChandler]

Cool, glad to hear it! Let me know how they hold up. I am a bit confused though, I thought for some reason that you were stationed in Korea? Were you able to locate all the materials, Sch 80 PVC and the ACOR Orthopedic foam etc?

Jeanry

[GaryGrzybek]

Yea Tim, if you don't break them that's all the confidence I need to start building my own <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

[Lance Chan]

He's now in Italy and Sch80 is kinda available globally I think. At least I can find it in Hong Kong.

[JeanryChandler]

Sch80 is kinda available globally I think. At least I can find it in Hong Kong.

Cool, are you using Sch 80 now for your RSW weapons? If so, have you noticed a difference?

Jeanry