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Why are you pissed off with a little criticism?
Hmmm... the armors were kindda hallow...like steel ships.... Do you think you would float if you were wearing one? lol
Sripol Asanasavest wrote:I'm just saying: I'm not quite sure how it would really work out in real life situation. I thought you can try it out in real life.
SO as it had been decided all the lords left Étamps, after staying there a few more days, and they marched to Saint-Mathurin de Larchant and Moret [-sur-Loing] in the Gâtinais. Lord Charles and the Bretons stayed in these two small towns. The count of Charolais camped in a large meadow on the edge of the river Seine and ordered everyone to bring a post to which to tie his horse. He had seven or eight small boats brought on carts and many wine-barrel staves to make a bridge over the Seine because the lords had no other way of crossing it. My lord of Dunois accompanied him in a litter because his gout prevented him from riding; his standard was carried behind him. As soon as they came to the river they launched the boats which they had brought and reached a small island which was about in the middle. Some archers landed and skirmished with horsemen who were defending the passage on the other side where Marshal Joachim and [Jean de] Salazar were present. The place was very disadvantageous for them since it was very steep and covered with vines. There was a considerable amount of artillery on the Burgundian side under the care of the famous gunner Master Girault [de Samien] and others, who had been captured in the battle of Montlhéry fighting on the royal side. In the end it was necessary for Joachim and Salazar to abandon the passage and they withdrew to Paris. That evening a bridge was built as far as the island, and immediately the count of Charolais had a large tent erected and slept the night in it with fifty household troops.
At daybreak a large number of coopers were set to work to make barrels from the wood which had been brought and before midday the bridge was completed to the other side of the river. Immediately the count of Charolais crossed to the other side and had his many large tents pitched there. He ordered all his army and artillery across the bridge and camped on a hill sloping towards the river, and his army made a very fine sight for those who were still behind.
All day only his troops were able to cross. Next day at dawn the dukes of Brittany and Berry crossed with all their army; they found the bridge very fine even though it had been constructed quickly.
LafayetteCCurtis wrote:Apparently, somebody did a test already:
http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic ... t=swimming
and the conclusions, apparently, are that it is just possible to swim short distances in harness, though only slowly and laboriously. Sustaining it for any distance--and in anything but calm waters--would be a different matter entirely, and on the whole swimming certainly doesn't seem to be a preferable solution when medieval technology provided for numerous ways of boating, wading/fording, and bridging (as in the following quote from Philippe de Commynes)!SO as it had been decided all the lords left Étamps, after staying there a few more days, and they marched to Saint-Mathurin de Larchant and Moret [-sur-Loing] in the Gâtinais. Lord Charles and the Bretons stayed in these two small towns. The count of Charolais camped in a large meadow on the edge of the river Seine and ordered everyone to bring a post to which to tie his horse. He had seven or eight small boats brought on carts and many wine-barrel staves to make a bridge over the Seine because the lords had no other way of crossing it. My lord of Dunois accompanied him in a litter because his gout prevented him from riding; his standard was carried behind him. As soon as they came to the river they launched the boats which they had brought and reached a small island which was about in the middle. Some archers landed and skirmished with horsemen who were defending the passage on the other side where Marshal Joachim and [Jean de] Salazar were present. The place was very disadvantageous for them since it was very steep and covered with vines. There was a considerable amount of artillery on the Burgundian side under the care of the famous gunner Master Girault [de Samien] and others, who had been captured in the battle of Montlhéry fighting on the royal side. In the end it was necessary for Joachim and Salazar to abandon the passage and they withdrew to Paris. That evening a bridge was built as far as the island, and immediately the count of Charolais had a large tent erected and slept the night in it with fifty household troops.
At daybreak a large number of coopers were set to work to make barrels from the wood which had been brought and before midday the bridge was completed to the other side of the river. Immediately the count of Charolais crossed to the other side and had his many large tents pitched there. He ordered all his army and artillery across the bridge and camped on a hill sloping towards the river, and his army made a very fine sight for those who were still behind.
All day only his troops were able to cross. Next day at dawn the dukes of Brittany and Berry crossed with all their army; they found the bridge very fine even though it had been constructed quickly.
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And speaking of which, I wonder which takes longer to sink a steel boat or wooden boat?
