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Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby JeanryChandler » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:53 pm

Since they presumably did it 'in the day', we have started sticking daggers in our belts or waistbands when sparring with longswords. This has led to some interesting situations during binds, a couple of which we captured on film this weekend.

http://www.iregames.com/jr/dagger-backup.wmv

Wondering if anyone else is doing this and what are your thoughts on the historical validity, fechtbuch references to this if any (I haven't noticed any but haven't really looked yet) technical advice or critique also welcome of course.

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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby Mike Cartier » Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:02 am

We have started doing that also jeanry, makes for more fun grappling. i think its very historical to do so also.
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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby Matthew_Anderson » Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:09 am

Some of the folks in our study group do this all the time. It's a good reality check to close and come to grips, maybe "disarm" the other guy and take him to the ground, then find a dagger in your face!
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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby Matthew_Anderson » Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:14 am

Jeanry, just a question about the video; Is it in "slow motion" or something? When I play it, the movement seems to be about half speed.
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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby GaryGrzybek » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:38 am

It can certainly add a different twist during the fight, just ask Randall about that <img src="/forum/images/icons/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I was too busy trying to take him down gently while he removed my own dagger and stabbed me in the back with it. A lesson I never forgot <img src="/forum/images/icons/blush.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby JeanryChandler » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:41 pm

No, it's not half speed, maybe you've got the wrong video codec or something, or maybe we're just slow! It's definately not our top intensity of sparring, more what we would call 'free-play'. I just watched it again and it looks normal speed to me though.

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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby Randall Pleasant » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:43 pm

Gary

I take it that I'm going to get slammed next time. <img src="/forum/images/icons/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby Gene Tausk » Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:17 pm

Ernie ("so I wasn in this bus station") Perez of the Dallas/Ft. Worth study group uses this to great effect. He might be able to share some insights.


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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby Shane Smith » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:09 pm

It can certainly add a different twist during the fight, just ask Randall about that


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Re: Backup daggers in longsword fights

Postby Shane Smith » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:14 pm

Watch Tim closely, he carries two daggers on his person at all times when fencing regardless of his primary weapon. If he sticks you, I told you in advance and you have but yourself to blame <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />
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