The perfect book for a neophyte?

[JeffreyHendricks]

Hi....im not a member or anything and i just do a little "sword play" with my friend. Is there like a renaissance sword play book for dummies? If you could recommend one book for me what would it be?


thanks
jeffrey

[Jeremy Martin]

Look for John Clement's stuff. Others may know more specific titles.(need to get one myself)

[Dylan palmer]

i would first like to point out that reffering to ones self as a retard is not a positive way to introuduce youself to any person group organization ect. i fell its a sure fire way to fail no one here will mock you for being new or inexperianced.

i am fairly new to this my self and have had nothing but possitve feed back fromm all mebers even dispite my reallitively youg age. now to anwser your question there are a few books for rennaissance sword play such as

Renaissance Swordsmanship:
The Illustrated Use of Rapiers and Cut and Thrust Swords
by John Clements. or


"Italian Rapier Combat"
Master Ridolfo Capo Ferro's Gran Simulacro of 1610



also you should seach in the historical manuals section i am sure you could find some invaulable soure texts in there as well as some fairrly in depth manuals. good luck and welcome to the fourm <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Dylan

[Brian Hunt]

Hi Jeffery,

what style of sword play are you interested and/or participating in? Longsword? Sword and Shield? Sword and Buckler? Cut and thrust? Rapier?

This will help me give you a better answer.

Brian Hunt
GFS

[JeffreyHendricks]

im mostly interested in rapier fighting...and some broadsword

[JeffreyHendricks]

i would first like to point out that reffering to ones self as a retard is not a positive way to introuduce youself to any person group organization ect. i fell its a sure fire way to fail no one here will mock you for being new or inexperianced.

that was mostly just an attention getter....

[JeffreyHendricks]

i would also like a book in easy terms...i dont know any of the lingo ( i should like to though)

[Dylan palmer]

http://www.thearma.org/terms.htm this page should help.

[Allen Johnson]

We've got tons of rapier manuals here on the website:
http://www.thearma.org/manuals.htm

also, if you havent read them already there are some great rapier related articles here as well:
http://www.thearma.org/Youth/rapieroutline.htm
http://www.thearma.org/essays/EnglishLit.htm
http://www.thearma.org/rapierglossary.htm
http://www.thearma.org/essays/G&amp;WinRF.htm
http://www.thearma.org/essays/saviolo.htm
and many more! ... <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />

There are some books available as well that would be good for a begining rapier student:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0873649192/sr=8-4/qid=1140805963/ref=pd_bbs_4/103-4585418-7078218?%5Fencoding=UTF8

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1891448188/ref=pd_sim_b_2/103-4585418-7078218?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;v=glance&amp;n=283155

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1891448234/ref=pd_bxgy_img_b/103-4585418-7078218?%5Fencoding=UTF8

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1853675806/qid=1140806052/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-4585418-7078218?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;n=283155

that'll do. Some of the books deal with specific manuals and others are more general over views of rapier fencing.

Just for future reference...
Many people are understandably confused about the term "broadsword". Most people think it can mean any medieval single hand, hand and a half or two handed sword. The only sword that was really historically called a "broadsword" is the scottish baskethilt. AKA "claymore" AKA "claidheamh mor". You may already know this. So when you say you are interested in learning some 'broadsword' as well, are you talking about the baskethilt, single hander, hand and a halfer, two hander, ect...
Just trying to help out best I can <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

[Shane Smith]

i would first like to point out that reffering to ones self as a retard is not a positive way to introuduce youself to any person group organization ect. i fell its a sure fire way to fail no one here will mock you for being new or inexperianced.

Right on all counts above. I have edited the title of the thread to be more in keeping with the scholarly nature of the ARMA Forum.

[JeffreyHendricks]

Many people are understandably confused about the term "broadsword". Most people think it can mean any medieval single hand, hand and a half or two handed sword. The only sword that was really historically called a "broadsword" is the scottish baskethilt. AKA "claymore" AKA "claidheamh mor". You may already know this. So when you say you are interested in learning some 'broadsword' as well, are you talking about the baskethilt, single hander, hand and a halfer, two hander, ect...

acctually....i didnt know that...now i do.


thank you

[JeffreyHendricks]

prabably a hand and a halfer..

[Mike_McGurk]

By broadsword do you mean basket-hilt or the more modern perversion, medieval sword?

[Allen Johnson]

Mike- read above posts

The best longsword work you could get would be to attend a NTP 1.0 workshop. It's so much easier to understand doing it in person than out of a book. But other than that most of the good books have already been mentioned. There are others with good bits and bad bits in them. There are a number of good books of all types offered by Paladin Press and The Chivalry Bookshelf.

[Nathan Dexter]

Jeffrey,
I've found both of the John Clements books very helpful. I would recomend them even though you could call me a neophite myself.