An introduction and a question

[James Wallhausen]

Hello everyone,

I am looking forward to taking part in the discussions here on the ARMA forum.

Although I have taken part in the practice of using historical weapons (with emphasis on the Lichtenawer recitals) for the last ten years, I have not taken part in any meetings with ARMA members directly. I have been somewhat of a "lerker" for many, many years.

I have had discussions with practitioners via other forums, but thought that I should probably come "to the horses mouth" as it were.

I hope that my perspective might offer something new to proceedings.

In which case, I note with interest the epiphany of Mr. Clements regarding his holistic insight into the practice of Historical Fencing. I wonder whether anyone could elaborate beyond what has already been mentioned in his articles?

[Tim Ingersoll]

" I note with interest the epiphany of Mr. Clements regarding his holistic insight into the practice of Historical Fencing. I wonder whether anyone could elaborate beyond what has already been mentioned in his articles?"

I second this thought.

Tim

[Sal Bertucci]

I would love to give you a clearer answer, but the question is quite vague. Let's narrow this down a bit.

[Tim Ingersoll]

Ok, let me give it a shot, what is the difference between the old way of looking at the art and the New.

I have my own theories but I have alread forwarded them in short to John.

Tim

[Sal Bertucci]

Well, I'd like to start of by saying that looking at the manuals holistically is not new to ARMA.

And, not to be coy, but the revelation isn't anything specific, but more like a paradigm shift that allows the manuals to be more easily understood, taught, and practiced. It's lead to the important revelations on things like the "Die Vaage" dynamic footwork (Of which the wide stance you can find on the website is a SMALL part.) John has been working on this since 2003, and we'll all be getting a taste of it soon.

There is a lot more to it, mainly five specific elements we focus on now, but those are some of the perks of membership. Hope that helps.

Sal Bertucci

[James Wallhausen]

... mainly five specific elements we focus on now

Hope that helps.

That certainly helps a little, thank you Sal.

Are the five elements the Scale, Motion, Bind (& Feel), Winding, Time (Vor and Nach)? These are mentioned in John's article.

It certainly is intriguing (and exciting). As a guest here, might I ask how you know this Sal?

Much respect,

[Tim Ingersoll]

I am chomping at the bit to hear more of this, I have been working, albet solo, on the Holistic approach to the art for the last 5 years and I am convinced that if John, given his vastly superior knowledge to my own, is looking at similar things it will definately add to the Art in ways that at this moment have been lacking.

This should be interesting.

TIm

[Sal Bertucci]

As a guest here, might I ask how you know this Sal?

I've been a member of ARMA for a bit over a year and a half now. Having only started learning under the new methodology I feel like it has made a big difference in how I approach things, and the speed of my growth. (Not that I'm amazing or anything, but it helps)

[Tim Ingersoll]

I don't think any of us will ever be more than simple students of this art and the more we work together to learn it the better students we will all become.

Just my thoughts on it.

Tim

[Sal Bertucci]

[Tim Ingersoll]

[James Wallhausen]

That's odd, the posts which were here last night have gone? Replaced by arrows?

It makes sense that the ARMA would prefer to keep its discoveries to its paying members (at least until the discoveries have been tested by said members).

The articles have been written fairly recently, I was just wondering how long the "new" approach has been expounded to it members? Has it had quite a wide influence on ARMA's members? This means it will be pretty well tested by the time it is released to non-members.

Best regards

[Sal Bertucci]

Tim and I took our conversation elsewhere. I had acted inappropriately, but I believe we made ammends.

[Sal Bertucci]

I was just wondering how long the "new" approach has been expounded to it members? Has it had quite a wide influence on ARMA's members? This means it will be pretty well tested by the time it is released to non-members.

Best regards

Well, the exact time I'm not sure about, I they've been doing it since I got here, and I've seen big improvments not just for me, but others. It's also helped the "old school" members see things differently. It's pretty eye-opening.

[Tim Ingersoll]

We have Sal,

It makes me glad to see that there is evolution in the Art taking place after all the is a name for things which do not evolve.......extinct.


I look forward to eventually seeing this for my self.

Tim