Kampfringen, anyone?

[Irsan_Olii]

Greetings,

As I have stated elsewhere, I am an aspiring student in the European martial arts. The art of Kampfringen interests me a lot. I was wondering if anyone has studied and practiced it with their Study Groups? Also can anyone recommend me any good resources on it, online or otherwise?

Thanks!

[Jeff Hansen]

Greetings,

As I have stated elsewhere, I am an aspiring student in the European martial arts. The art of Kampfringen interests me a lot. I was wondering if anyone has studied and practiced it with their Study Groups? Also can anyone recommend me any good resources on it, online or otherwise?

Thanks!

Codex Wallerstein, Nicolaes Petter, and Johann Passchen are all available on the ARMA site. For a transcription/translation of Wallerstein (My favorite of the three) I recomend buying a copy of Zabinski and Walczak's excellent work published by Paladin press. Fiore is also available online. And, I almost forgot Joachim Meyer. That should get you started. Enjoy.

[Ken Dietiker]

Hi Irsan,

If you would like to meet for a day to discuss things and get a short introduction from me of both unarmed and dagger, I will be in France for the last half of May. I will be staying in the area of Montpellier from about the 18th to the 26th (not available the 19th). I am currently studying Fiore's book if that's okay.

If you're interested, PM me to let me know and we'll try to hook up.

Cheers!
Ken

[Jay Vail]

Greetings,

As I have stated elsewhere, I am an aspiring student in the European martial arts. The art of Kampfringen interests me a lot. I was wondering if anyone has studied and practiced it with their Study Groups? Also can anyone recommend me any good resources on it, online or otherwise?

Thanks!

The dagger material in the manuals in founded largely on wrestling. So my book, Medieval and Renaissance Dagger Combat, necessarily addresses and interprets with step by step instructions many of the old wrestling moves. It is not a comprehensive work on wrestling, but it will give you some basics. If you are interested in Fiore, the unarmed plays in the book are drawn largely (tho not entirely) from the Flos. The book is available online at www.paladin-press.com.

[Ken Dietiker]

Irsan,

Again it is too bad that our schedules while I will be in France do not match up. It is more important that you work on your class finals, of course. It's all in the timing. I hope to be out there again sometime, if all goes well on the financial front, that is.

In the mean time, I highly recommend Jay's book. You can't go wrong with this one and is the best out there for historical grappling/wrestling and dagger. And the price is right! A more direct link to the book is:

http://www.paladin-press.com/detail.aspx?ID=1418

Hope to meet you in the future.
Cheers!

Ken

[Jaron Bernstein]

The Meyer manual

http://www.amazon.com/Art-Combat-German ... 832&sr=8-1

has a first rate and very clear unarmed/dagger section

Svard and Linholm's Ringeck translation is also excellent:

http://www.paladin-press.com/detail.aspx?ID=1357

And Walcak's (go ARMA Poland! ) Wallerstein

http://www.thearma.org/spotlight/codexwpro.htm

has already been mentioned.

You will find that these three books inform each other and things that aren't clear in one are often illuminated by the others. That should keep you busy for a while.

You might also contact Phillip Wallaume and see if he can steer you towards some people. I don't know if you can travel much, but there is a very good ARMA Poland study group.

[Axel Pettersson]

I second all suggestions, we work from Lindholms ringen interpretation in GHFS, and when I was with ARMA (there are no ARMA group in gothenburg unfortunately) it tooks us almost awhole year just to go through the Ringen chapter of codex wallerstein, its great!