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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Jay Vail » Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:41 pm

I just this week came across some new information that blows my theory about that the ball front kick is of recent origin. There is conclusive evidence that it was known in 19th century jujutsu. So I am wrong about that point.

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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Shane Smith » Fri Oct 18, 2002 6:28 pm

Also, after you stop your opponents Murder-stroke with your Crown,a good front thrust kick to the lower abdomen WILL drop him(or at least drive him back) making room for a more "permanent solution" <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /> Even in full harness,this will work to drive him away if done properly. <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> Theres just something beautiful about a properly performed kick that sends your opponent to the ground in a heap! <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Guest » Sat Oct 19, 2002 6:17 am

I personnally like the grunting sound of all the air leaving the opponen'st lungs as he falls to the ground <img src="/forum/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby TimSheetz » Sat Oct 19, 2002 3:04 pm

HI Todd,

True, but it must be done really quickly... I try to never let my blade be 'played upon' and set up.

I figure you know this but some newer folks reading who want to try it may not.

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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Guest » Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:23 pm

Tim,

How are you going to keep your blade from being played upon this summer when you constantly have to keep picking yourself up off the ground? <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />

"Todd throws his glove down at Tim's feet" <img src="/forum/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby TimSheetz » Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:47 pm

Todd wrote:
"How are you going to keep your blade from being played upon this summer when you constantly have to keep picking yourself up off the ground? "

- I guess I'll just have to show you. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I have only been successfully kicked in the chest once during swordplay... by John Clements. <img src="/forum/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Todd wrote:
"Todd throws his glove down at Tim's feet"

- Excuse me, you dropped this - SMACK!

See you this summer! <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Guest » Sun Nov 10, 2002 1:08 pm

In the sport of Knifefighting which we practice in my club you are allowed to use kicks with the understanding that you can get cut if the wrong kick is used. My preference is for low ankle height kicks while I try to cut the opponent's knife hand (we use training knives, of course). Others kick higher very effectively.

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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Shane Smith » Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:34 pm

Hello Widdowson, we incorporate kicks into our dagger fighting as well.We keep our techniques at waist-level and below as per the historic works.I have found that a good kick to the knee or a front thrust kick to the mid-section are pretty easy to pull off(at least the first time) and serve to unsettle the opponent long enough to close and apply a key or other lock/grappling technique ending with a thrust with the rondell.
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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Guest » Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:16 am

I love that phrase, "the first time". As I always tell my Boxer's. You should step on his foot at least once cause that is the most you will usually get away with it. The odds of you not getting cut in knifefighting go down with each attempt. Their must be a reason, as in knocking the opponent off balance or diverting his attention. Ain't this more funner than golf?

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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Guest » Mon Nov 11, 2002 7:27 am

I can definately vouch for the effectiveness of a good kick. In last weeks session Shane and I were doing some pretty rough and tumble half-swording. I started to close and hooked his sword with my cross. I thought I had him right where I wanted him when I suddenly found myself about three feet out of range. He had simply shoved me back with a front kick to the torso. This little reminder changed the dynamic of our sparring after that. He didn't do it again, but because I was aware that he could and would, it was always in the back of my mind and changed how I fought from that point on.

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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 15, 2002 2:52 pm

In knife fighting kicks are best. The legs can take alot of abuse with cuts and slices plus they are twice as strong as your arms. Were the arms can not take the abuse plus the legs have a much longer reach than your arms. My 2 cents

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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby TimSheetz » Fri Nov 15, 2002 7:48 pm

I think Low kicks are best.. the higher the kick, the longer it generally take to travel and the more likely to have a knife used in the 'block' .. preferably against the soft tissue of the inner thigh. ;-) Also the bigger and heavier the knife the less and less kicks should be used as the result of failure would more disatrous than with one the size of a tactical folder, IMO.

The use of the legs should not be ignored in any combative training.
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Re: Kicks in Sword Fighting

Postby Guest » Sat Nov 16, 2002 7:53 am

I agree. Kicks are devastating in any martial art. Kicking low to the side of knee or actually any part of the knee very devastating.

Tim how do you think knees, receiving kicks, would hold up in armor??? <img src="/forum/images/icons/confused.gif" alt="" /> Thoughts?

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