Fabian von Auerswald

[G.MatthewWebb]

Has anyone read this manual or worked with it? James Klock has posted an English translation here:

http://www.klocktower.org/ringen/auerswald/

Matthew Webb

[Randall Pleasant]

Matt

Thanks for posting that link. I will be making good use of it. Fabian von Auerswald techniques are very similar to those of seen in <a href="http://www.thearma.org/pdf/Wurm/Wurm.htm"> Das Ringersbuch der Hans Wurm, c. 1505 </a>.

[Casper Bradak]

I've been waiting for a translation of that for a long time, it's been way overdue.

[Jay Vail]

most of this stuff is identical to what you will find in san shao kuai jao and judo.

[G.MatthewWebb]

Jay,

What is san shao kuai jao? I don't think I've ever heard of it? Is it similar to shuai jiao (Chinese wrestling)?

Matthew Webb

[G.MatthewWebb]

I think I mispelled the words for Chinese wrestling. I think it's spelled shuai chiao though there might be several competing transliterations depending on the system used. Jaron Bernstein will know since he's studied it.

Matthew Webb

[Jeffrey Hull]

That one guy's link to facsimile of Auerswald does not seem to work.

So try this one:

http://jfgilles.club.fr/escrime/bibliotheque/auerswald/index.html

That URL leads you to a nice version.

[Jaron Bernstein]

Schuai Jiao (pronounced "Swy" as in fly and "Jow" Ouch!) is Chinese wrestling. Many of the throws are very similar to the ones described in the manuals because...a hip is a hip and an arm is an arm. There are only so many ways to do a hip throw. It doesn't have groundwork (unlike Judo or BJJ) but it DOES includes strikes. Kuai Jiao just means fast wrestling and it is the same thing, just describing fast throws.

[Jaron Bernstein]

San Shou (various spellings) is the chinese version of MMA. It allows strikes, kicks and (this is kuai chiao part) throws. It doesn't include groundwork. Picture a MMA match without the groundwork.

[JeffGentry]

Hey Jeff

Thank's for the link.

Jeff

[Jay Vail]

In his book about chinese wrestling Liang, Shou-Yu ("Chinese Fast Wrestling for Fighting") calls it shan shou kuai jiao, not shuai jiao, although I have heard it referred to by the latter term. I will defer to Mr. Liang.

[Jaron Bernstein]

Hi Jay,

Here ya go. <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

http://www.shuai-chiao.org/shuaichiao_home.htm

http://www.combatshuaichiao.com/

http://www.changshuaichiao.com/

[Jay Vail]

Thanks for the links. It's really interesting stuff. Ever since I became aware of them, I've been impressed by the san shou fighters. They're really tough and their technique and approach to fighting is hard and practical. We can all learn a lot from them.

I noticed that on the webpage http://www.changshuaichiao.com/ the author refers to "kuai jiao" as fast wrestling, which is the way Mr. Liang refers to it. "shuai chiao" must mean a more inclusive method than simply wrestling, since it seems to include hand blows and kicks as well.

[Tomek Maziarz]

I'm very glad to present you short film with our Auerswald's techniques interpretation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6P1boVkY0

Enjoy and we are waiting for your opinion
Best Regards
Tomek

[Jaron Bernstein]

Cool!