Question about Auerswald. Hook or half hip or both?

[RayMcCullough]

I have a question about the half hip and the hook in Auerswald. He mentions the half hip with a winding of the right leg on his left leg. This looks similar to the Hook mentioned later on. The half hip is also mentioned with out the leg winding around the opponent left leg in two other places.

www.klocktower.org/ringen/auerswald/Auerswald.pdf

1st half hip is on pg 18; While winding, I spring with my right thigh, winding it around his left leg and take the half hip.

2nd half hip pg 19; When I have taken the half hip, and he has begun to break out of it then I step with my right thigh entirely behind so that I have my left hand on his shoulder and pull him entirely over.

3rd half hip pg 80; This is also a technique from the underhook that is called the half hip.

All of the hooks mentioned have the leg off the ground. pgs. 48,49,50,51,54,55,56,59,60,61. Some of these are breaks(counters) of the hooks. Also pgs. 77 outer hook, 78 under hook. and pgs. 82,85.

Is the half hip and the hook variations of the same throw or are they different throws? Is the half hip a hip throw with both feet on the ground and the hook a hip throw with one leg hooking up the opponents leg?

[Jeffrey Hull]

Is the half hip and the hook variations of the same throw or are they different throws? Is the half hip a hip throw with both feet on the ground and the hook a hip throw with one leg hooking up the opponents leg?

I thought it was the latter. But maybe somebody who focuses on Von Auerswald would differ. Anybody else want to address this question?

[RayMcCullough]

I got to looking at Hans Wurm and I think I'm correct about the the half hip a hip throw with both feet on the ground and the hook a hip throw with one leg hooking up the opponents leg.

[Jay Vail]

I have a question about the half hip and the hook in Auerswald. He mentions the half hip with a winding of the right leg on his left leg. This looks similar to the Hook mentioned later on. The half hip is also mentioned with out the leg winding around the opponent left leg in two other places.

www.klocktower.org/ringen/auerswald/Auerswald.pdf

1st half hip is on pg 18; While winding, I spring with my right thigh, winding it around his left leg and take the half hip.

2nd half hip pg 19; When I have taken the half hip, and he has begun to break out of it then I step with my right thigh entirely behind so that I have my left hand on his shoulder and pull him entirely over.

3rd half hip pg 80; This is also a technique from the underhook that is called the half hip.

All of the hooks mentioned have the leg off the ground. pgs. 48,49,50,51,54,55,56,59,60,61. Some of these are breaks(counters) of the hooks. Also pgs. 77 outer hook, 78 under hook. and pgs. 82,85.

Is the half hip and the hook variations of the same throw or are they different throws? Is the half hip a hip throw with both feet on the ground and the hook a hip throw with one leg hooking up the opponents leg?

I see Auerswald's half hip as the judo equivalent of uki-goshi. It is a hip technique where the opponent is held to the side of the hip, lifted, then wheeled onto his back. It does not appear to be a leg hook.

[JeffGentry]

I have a question about the half hip and the hook in Auerswald. He mentions the half hip with a winding of the right leg on his left leg. This looks similar to the Hook mentioned later on. The half hip is also mentioned with out the leg winding around the opponent left leg in two other places.

www.klocktower.org/ringen/auerswald/Auerswald.pdf

1st half hip is on pg 18; While winding, I spring with my right thigh, winding it around his left leg and take the half hip.

2nd half hip pg 19; When I have taken the half hip, and he has begun to break out of it then I step with my right thigh entirely behind so that I have my left hand on his shoulder and pull him entirely over.

3rd half hip pg 80; This is also a technique from the underhook that is called the half hip.

All of the hooks mentioned have the leg off the ground. pgs. 48,49,50,51,54,55,56,59,60,61. Some of these are breaks(counters) of the hooks. Also pgs. 77 outer hook, 78 under hook. and pgs. 82,85.

Is the half hip and the hook variations of the same throw or are they different throws? Is the half hip a hip throw with both feet on the ground and the hook a hip throw with one leg hooking up the opponents leg?

Hey Ray

I have spent quit a bit of time in Von Auerswald and I am of the opinion that the hook technique's are for those time's when you cannot get turned to take the half hip or the full hip. it is also realy effective for stopping a throw or causing your opponent to fall when he throw's or tries to throw you.

I think they are seperate from the half hip technique's.

We used to play the game in Von Auerswald, wrestling in the hole, and the leg hook is a good technique and used alot in this game since one guy is hoping one leg.

Jeff

[RayMcCullough]

Hey Jay. I looked up uki-goshi and I see what you are saying. That is sort of what I was thinking after I looked at Wurm.

I like the hook techniques. I cracked up at the "man in the hole game". I will have to try that.