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Re: Breathing

Postby leam hall » Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:53 pm

Another thing to consider is your technique. You might be able to relax and improve your technique and thus save on energy expended. Not sure where you are personally, but a lot of people make that mistake.
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Re: Breathing

Postby Matt Haupt » Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:32 pm

Has anyone tried running around a little bit and then grabbing your waster and going through the 8 cuts or flourishing awhile? I thought of this while training with my group in front of a library with a large field. I ran two laps and got my breathing really going and then tried to maintain good technique... It wasn't easy!
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Re: Breathing

Postby C.Van Slambrouck » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:36 pm

....Running. I am in the military.
Sometimes after PT i come home and do some pell work, and partnar training. It effects you, but I figure if I continue to do it I will grow to last longer in armour, bouts, and training.

What I have found to be "worst" (or better depending on how you look at it) is doing a two or three mile run After WMA training workout, then stretch and do flourish and pell
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Re: Breathing

Postby Jaron Bernstein » Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:34 pm

A few reflections about training while fresh and exhausted (or stressed).

1. When you are not tired our nervous, you can do fine motor things better.

2. When you are either nervous ("that other guy is swinging a waster at my head!") or physically tired, only gross skill are possible, UNLESS...you have trained to do the fine motor skills WHILE you are tired and/or stressed.

3. As you train, so shall you do. If you train with good form AFTER doing those laps around the field, then later you can do that in sparring. Muscle memory is (for me at least) the key to making something work. That said, from another thread, apparently there are people who CAN make techniques work without tons of repitition or stress innoculation. I must just be slow, since it has to work into my bones before I can do a technique "live" (as in it works against a live resisting opponent).

4. The other thing that doing your techniques after being tired is that it gives you a mental mindset where you can focus on a fight and work even when you body says it is time to sit down and rest now.

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Re: Breathing

Postby JeffGentry » Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:13 am

Hey Guy's

I was reading this again and the thought came to mind about Olympic bi-athlete's they ski while carrying there rifle am not sure of the distance i think it is about ten mile's or more, they cross country ski(very fast) for about 2-3 mile's then stop and shoot 5 target's they do this 2 or three time's through out the race and are judged according to time on the skiing and time is added for any missed shot's, it is the breath control that is important in the skiing and shooting and also being able to zone in on the target's while under emotional(nervous at the olympic's) and phyiscal stress ie you just skied three mile's extremely fast, now you have to relax and take a shot at five very small target's, i think the mental training is also important the more keyed up and stressed you are mentaly the more oxygen you consume and waste.

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