Pallas Armata Road Test

[Brian Hunt]

Stu,

Is there a copy of Zach Wyld's manual of 1711 online? If so could you provide a url? I love rapier, but had not looked at the pallas Armata until I read this series of posts, and I would love to look at this other manual where you say it has a similar style to it.

thanks

Brian Hunt.

[Stuart McDermid]

Hey Brian,

Whoh! I never said that they were the same just that they both parry with the point off line. Still you can make your own mind up www.the-exiles.org. The Exiles site is a nice one. Settle in for some reading.
Cheers,
Stu.

[Brian Hunt]

Oh,

my misunderstanding - it is interesting and fun to see something that doesn't feel you HAVE to keep you point on line at all times. Thanks for the URL, I will settle in and enjoy my reading. <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Brian Hunt.

[DavidEvans]

Finally remembered to post My coments on the Prime guard. I did think that Prime was a transitional guard, used as a riposte and I did find the advice that I thought might be present.
PA says:-
If thine adversary lie open within, then stringere him within as soon as he maketh a thrust at thee without, and turneth his point under thy Rapier, instantly thrust at him with a Tertz over his right arm close to the weak of his Rapier, if then he doth strive to put by thy thrust towards his right side, then turning thy Tertz into Prime thrust at his right breast.

Which does seem to indicate a riposte. I can find no other use of the Prime guard listed. In Practise this does seem to work. In moving from Tertz to Prime the arm reaches out as the elbow joint goes straight

By and large, If a manual does not mention any change in foot stance then there is no change in stance. This works consistently through all 17th and 18th Century drill manuals