Training

[Ray Brunk]

To anyone interested in responding,
A general question to the forum:
How much time does everyone train and/or research every week. Really just wondering how I'm doing with the motivation/learning curve. Would like to hear any genuine responses.
As for me I train alone 2 nights per week for about 30-45 minutes. Cutting excercises, footwork, imaginary combinations and new material for study group. I try to do some reading at least 2 nights per week to get ready for group.During winter I usually get some reading time on Saturdays also. Our Study group meets every Sunday for 2 hours.
Anyone else?

Ray Brunk
ARMA Upstate NY

[Jaron Bernstein]

Sunday: ARMA class for 2 hours, EMA class (joint locks) for 1 hour
Monday: 2 hours EMA (grappling art)
Tuesday: 2 hours EMA (grappling art)
Wednesday: 2 hours EMA (striking art)
Thursday-Friday: Off
Saturday: WMA reading in preparation for Sunday ARMA class

Every day: either a 1 hour swim or 40 minutes on the eliptical runner and some waster PT (walking around the track and cutting)

Every 3rd day: 6-10 sets of pullups.

[JeanryChandler]

I'm not an ARMA member but I thought I'd chime in...

I train alone about 3 times a week for about 10 or 15 minutes after work, usually on my pell. My friends and I meet for drill and sparring in City Park every Saturday (weather permitting) for about 3-4 hours. Also sometimes after work on a weekday one of my friends will come over and we will drill in the side yard for an hour or so, maybe twice a month.

I also usually spend about an hour or two at least one night a week making weapons and / or maintaining equipment since I have almost all of the gear for our group over here at my house.

Outside of my day job I'm doing an increasing amount of work as a writer. This involves a huge amount of research, almost always WMA related stuff (especially hoplology and spathology) so I guess that counts... probably about 6 hours a day (more accurately, six hours a night as it's usually into the wee hours...)


Unfortunately due to Mardi Gras and some bad weather we haven't had drill here in nearly a month <img src="/forum/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" />

Jeanry

[Mike Chidester]

Well, let's see, for training in general my week goes:

M - 1 hour gymnastics training (morning), 1 hour weight training (evening)
T - 1 hour ju-jitsu (morning), 2 hours ARMA (evening)
W - 1 hour gymnastics training (morning), 1 hour weight training (evening)
T - 1 hour ju-jitsu (morning), 1-2 hours practice with other ARMA members (varies)
F - 1 hour weight training (evening), 2 hours practice with other ARMA members (evening)
S - 2-3 hours ARMA

The ju-jitsu is mostly for the aerobic and endurance training--I consider most of its techniques less than martially sound. I rarely practice solo, since the only way I can manage to squeeze in time for training at all is to schedule it ahead of time, and I can usually find others wanting to practice when I do.

[JeffGentry]

Hey Ray

I usualy spend about 45 minute's a day doing something with my waster usualy trying to figure out a technique so i guess that would be research i also usualy take Meyer and Ringeck to work with me and read it for 30-40 minute's before i go into work, i don't realy have a set training schedule i do alot of "shadow boxing" on the spur of the moment for short period's multiple time's a day, sometime's fast sometime's slow and relaxed.

Jeff

[Ray Brunk]

Excellent responses. Sounds like we got some motivation out there. I try to mix it up during the week.
mon 30-45 min solo sword / 1 hour weights back/bi's
tues 10 round muay thai bag workout
weds 30-45 min solo sword / 1 hour weights chest/shoulders/tri's
thurs 15 round muay thai bag workout
Friday 1 hour weights legs
Sat 6 rounds bags 3 rounds focus mitts &amp; pads 3 rounds full contact sparring(when I can get a partner) or 3 more rounds bags or technique training
Sunday 2 hours ARMA study group

I'm lucky. My wife works full time and has gone back to school nights for her master's so I got nothing but free time. I would like to replace one of my weeknights with another ARMA night but can't seem to be able to get the guys to agree on a night.
I really want to add a rapier day.
Anyone else?
Ray
ARMA Upstate NY

[Lance Chan]

I train 3 times a week for warm up stretching and then solo drills. I didn't count the time but it takes about 2 hours totally. What I really count is the amount of each move I practice.
100 single handed strikes from each hand with different combinations;
60 single handed thrusts from each hand;
30 upward cuts from each side;
20 upward cuts with combination from each side;
25 downward cuts linked with upward cuts from each side;
50 binding and counter thrust from each side;
50 various hanging counter from each side;
100 downward cuts linked with upward cuts from both sides mixed up, nonstop.

Some sparring on Saturday, and lots of sparring on Sunday.

[Mike Sega]

Crap! I feel like such a tool!
After seeing how much you all train, I got a bit dejected. I have been trying to increase my own training to at least something once a day, but two jobs with very different time schedules one a teaching gig and an unfortunate twisted knee have slowed me up a bit.

But then, I suppose it is not a competion. Also, this is something I want to do for the rest of my life. Some weeks, (or months or years) I will train harder, others not as often as I would like.

The Las Vegas Arma has about 6 members at this time, yet we are not all able to train on the same days. I am trying to develop a daily training/stretching exercise useful for the individual who has less access to sparring partners. Used in conjunction with The Arma literature, this could be helpful in promoting WMA study for the individual.

So far I have been working on the 8 cut drill, the 5 master strikes, and Various Flourishes.

Have you Ray, or others, any insights into this that might be helpful? I feel that locating a retail space for indoor training would be a great benefit, but also perhaps a little unrealistic at this point. So frustrating! Well, I can at least do a few cut drills to use that energy!

Mike Sega
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[Brian Hunt]

Hey Mike,

where are you guys meeting at in Vegas? I know that sunset park used to have a couple of different recreation groups meeting there, maybe that would be a good place to try and recruit more members?

just a thought.

Brian Hunt.
GFS.

[Mike Sega]

sunset park is where the local rennasaince groups meet
and tony indurante does know some of these people, but
amny of them are in their own sword "games" set up.
Tony puts it best when he states that many of these
people are in those groups for the social scene. We
have a few more dedicated people now, a few law
enforcement among them.

I think an indoor location can help add legitimacy. I
also would like to develop some type of "curriculum"
as it were for the lone practitioner so to speak.

Problems with indoor is money and time. I suppose I
can work on the individual curriculum more which is
at this point more attainable. KIinda late so this
might not make too much sense.

I think what I see now is that the more structured we
can do this, the less "sword tag" it might seem to
others. That is,here in las vegas. ARMA utah and VAB
are much more established. Perhaps we can create some
type of packet for the lone wolf types. Lone due to
circumstance of course.

[Jaron Bernstein]

We have the same problem with scheduling. We only have one day a week to actually train WMA with other people. This presents a problem in that a lot of the WMA techniques really require another person to practice with to develop any actually usable skills (timing, speed, distance, etc) that you just don't get by slicing the air to bits with a waster in your back yard.

[Brian Hunt]

Are any of you in college? If so, you can try and set up ARMA as an on campus club which should give you access to an indoor facility. That is what ARMA Provo has done, and that is what I have done here in Price, Utah. It can be a good way to get a free indoor training facility. I know that there are a couple of different campuses there in Vegas, having lived there for a couple of years.

hope this helps.

Brian Hunt
GFS.

[David_Knight]

I tried setting up an ARMA on-campus club when I was an undergrad, but the university threw so much red tape at us that I ended up graduating before we could work out liability issues.

Current training schedule:
Sunday - ARMA SoFL 10AM-2PM, 1-2 hours mountainbiking (weather/chores permitting)
Monday - Paulus Hector Mair study/translation, usually 1-3 hours
Tuesday - MMA grappling class 10:30AM-12:00PM, German course 6:45-9:45PM, Paulus Hector Mair study/translation (1-3 hours)
Wednesday - Paulus Hector Mair study/translation, usually 1-3 hours
Thursday - MMA grappling class 10:30AM-12:00PM, Paulus Hector Mair study/translation (1-3 hours)
Friday - MMA grappling class 10:30AM-12:00PM, Paulus Hector Mair study/translation (1-3 hours)
Saturday - Paulus Hector Mair study/prep for Sunday ARMA polearms class (1-3 hours), 5 mile distance run or 45-minute stair climbing run in the evening

Some days I slip on the PHM work but catch up the next day, so the hours vary. Both Brian and I have developed a consistent schedule and a quick pace on the project. Some of it involves cross-referencing other manuals, so I actually spend quite a lot of time researching our art each week.

Of course, I now have the luxury of only working 3-9PM weekdays and 1-5:30 Saturdays, so I have a lot of free time. When I first got involved with ARMA, I worked 12.5-hour graveyard shifts, 48+ hours a week, and could barely make it to Sunday training. I attended my first two JC seminars on 24+ hours of no sleep. Not fun.

[Ray Brunk]

Campus' &amp; recreation centers are your best first choice as they are free. Another possibility is if you have a struggling Dojo in town. I belong to one and am allowed to bring in our group for a $5 fee each. Some gyms will allow you to use an available aerobics room for a guest fee. They already have insurance and can make a few dollars on non-scheduled time on the room. We have done both as winters are kinda harsh up here in NY. Just remember to leave all steel at home. They will FREAK OUT!
As far as an indoor facility appearing to be more legite, you may have a point.All I can say is that as soon as the ground dries....I'm out there were combat belongs. It also gives you the ability to train at different locations for more exposure.
Hope this helps,
Ray Brunk
ARMA Upstate NY

[Aaron Pynenberg]

Hey Ray, good advice this is also what are group did, we hooked up with a local dojo, although I do not think they are struggling, met with the owner, and talked about what we do a little, but then cut right to the chase and offered a sum which was cheap enough for us, but worthwhile for him.

It worked out really well. he gets a little extra cash on the side and we get more training time, due to our harsh conditions here in WI.

As an aside we are also getting alot of exposure through the other disciplines out at the facility and alot of interest from other MA student's- communicate with your local dojo's it is well worth it!