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Eddie Smith
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test cutting materials

Postby Eddie Smith » Thu May 26, 2005 2:28 am

What do people use for test cutting, I'm looking for a relitavely cheep, but good to use item. Lately I have been using pool noodles with a hardwood dowel core, but the foam of the pool noodle doens't exactly give the resistance I want. Any suggestions.

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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Aaron Pynenberg » Thu May 26, 2005 2:50 am

Rolled up newspaper soaked in water, with and without dowels inside-works pretty good.
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Re: test cutting materials

Postby David_Knight » Thu May 26, 2005 9:03 am

Some of the guys in Utah use plastic juice bottles or milk jugs filled with water. If your edge alignment isn't spot-on, you just end up whacking the bottle a few feet.

FYI, cranberry bottles are harder to cut than milk jugs <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Mike Chidester » Thu May 26, 2005 9:12 am

Pumpkins, mostly, and watermelons (though those tend to get messy). Snowmen in winter.
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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Bill Welch » Thu May 26, 2005 9:50 am

On a whim, I used coconuts one day, and the results were amazing. I could cut about three to four inches into it and then they would just explode, and pieces would fly everywhere. I thought it would make a good head simulator.

This coming weekend, I have secured a fresh(was frozen hopefully it will be thawed out by this weekend <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) deer hide and I am going to bind it around another coconut, and see how it works. We are planning to video tape it, for posterity.
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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Brian Hunt » Thu May 26, 2005 10:13 am

If you want a pretty good limb simulator, a dowel or piece of pvc pipe for a core or bone, wrap that with a pork roast, then wrap the whole thing with about 4 or 5 wraps of plastic wrap to simulate skin. This is a little expensive, but it supposed to be very close simulator for how limbs react to being cut.

just a thought.

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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Shane Smith » Thu May 26, 2005 3:32 pm

Easy targets; Pool noodles
Light targets; Water filled two-liter bottles
Medium targets; Grass Mat
Medium targets; Thick walled cardboard tubes
Heavy targets; 1/2"- 3/4" plywood
Hard targets: 18 gauge armoured helm (be ready for some less than stout swords to break at this level)
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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Patrick Hardin » Thu May 26, 2005 6:26 pm

And, of course, bamboo/river cane, if you happen to have any growing near you <img src="/forum/images/icons/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Fri May 27, 2005 11:32 am

River cane? I assume you can get that readily in SC. Please tell <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Patrick Hardin » Fri May 27, 2005 3:51 pm

Well, river cane is just a kind of bamboo that grows near water in a warm humid environment, i.e. the American South. I just call it bamboo, but I had a friend in college that told me that was incorrect, that real bamboo only grew in China, and the proper name for what we have is river cane. Tomato/Tomahto. <img src="/forum/images/icons/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Anyway, most of the southeastern states in the US have it. I know the Houston groups use it. I think it's supposed to be more of a low altitude, low latitude plant, but it grows here in the foothills of upstate SC, usually in river bottom land. There's a grove of it near my house that I use for test-cutting. If anybody starts using it, though, be sure you cut the fresh stuff. The greener the better. The yellow ones are old and hard, and too tough for cutting.

If you want to see what it looks like, there are many test-cutting videos on the main site and the members page where they cut bamboo. There's one somewhere in which JC breaks a Del Tin blade on an old hard yellow stalk. Check it out. <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Tue May 31, 2005 2:29 pm

Ohhh...Okay, that stuff. BTW and FYI, I have seen bamboo grown in Oregon. Thanks!
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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Isaac Bettis » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:47 am

Hey man, I do korean martial arts, and came across this website while looking for an old friend, but here in korea we use bamboo to simulate bone (the big thick kind) and water soaked bales of straw to simulate flesh. I post this knowing full well that both the weapons and tecnique of ancient korean sword technique and renaissance sword technique are quite diffrent, and will probably be made fun of for the info not bieng pertinent, but i figure it could not hurt.
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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Aaron Pynenberg » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:11 am

Sounds pertinent to me, I don't think anyone would make fun of you here- we can probably learn alot from each other, but you are right the styles are diffrent of course. Welcome anyway man, Aaron
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Re: test cutting materials

Postby Stacy Clifford » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:14 am

Isaac,

You won't get made fun of on here for making a practical suggestion. We all like to experiment to find what works best. What simulates Korean flesh and bone should substitute quite nicely for European flesh and bone. All infidels, foreigners and enemies of the king were made of the same stuff, they just wore different armor. Outside martial arts experience is not irrelevant to understanding here, you just have to keep in mind that we are trying to reconstruct Renaissance martial arts in their own right working forward from original sources, not working backward from modern sources.
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