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Re: Hanko Döbringer's Fechtbuch from 1389

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Sat May 07, 2005 3:32 pm

Unfortunately none are online. I too await the official release of the Glasgow publication.

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Re: Hanko Döbringer's Fechtbuch from 1389

Postby JohnDemick » Mon May 16, 2005 3:20 am

Strange.......

Im getting an error when I try to open the file. Anyone else having this problem?

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Re: Hanko Döbringer's Fechtbuch from 1389

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Tue May 31, 2005 3:39 pm

Hey Guys:

Please note what Doebringer teaches of Liechtenauer's *Shilhawe* or *squinter*, as per Lindholm's translation from the bilingual PDF:

* (28V) This is regarding the Squinting strike [Shilhawe]
The squinting strike [Schiler] breaks what
the “buffalo” or a fool strikes or thrusts, he
who tries to change [Wechsel]; the squinting
strike [Schiler] robs him of it. Do a
squinting strike [Schil] if he comes to short
the changing through [Durchwechsel] defeats
him. Do a squinting strike [Schil] to
the point and take the neck without fear.
Do a squinting strike [Schil] to the upper
head if you wish to endanger the hands.
Strike a squinting strike [Schil] to the right
(probably the opponent’s right side, but it
could be your own as well), this is how you
wish to fence. The squinting strike [Schil] I
do praise, if it does not come too slowly.
Glossa. Here note and understand that the
squinting strike [Schiler] is an upper strike
[Oberhaw] from the right side using the
back edge on the sword, which is called the
left side, and it goes in a squinting way and
is sent to one side with a step to the right
with the sword and hand turned.*

So this suggests possiblity of full or hop-step to left or cross-step behind oneself to allow driving of a sort of clipping-thrust that may be called *Shilhawe*. This is incidentally similar to what I advocated as a way to do Siber's squinter. I am still unsure if this is correct, but I have found that it works. BTW, I know that what Lindholm advocates in his Ringeck book is different from what I am suggesting.

Simply looking for comments about all this -- Thanks!

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Re: Hanko Döbringer's Fechtbuch from 1389

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:19 pm

I started new post duplicating my previous question called:

*Schielhau of Doebringer*

So reply there please if you like.

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