First Day at the Pell: Thoughts and observations

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Eric Allen
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First Day at the Pell: Thoughts and observations

Postby Eric Allen » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:19 pm

So, I have not been practicing longsword for long at all. In fact, I’ve only gotten really serious about training within the past few months, and school has cut significantly into my ability to get out and practice, so I am not what I would call experienced. I do try and practice at least once a week, and this week was the inaugural session of my brand new pell. The pell I made is a six-foot iron pipe (actually, two 36-inch pipes screwed together, and all told its closer to 6-foot-2) supported by an H-frame of pipe on the ground. For padding I used a bundle of pool noodles (standard sized, not he “jumbo”) duct taped together with ample duct tape covering the top so as to prevent the top of the pipe sticking through and slid over the vertical pipe. I sewed a canvas sleeve to cover the pool noodles.
Today, I set this contraption up in the school yard next to my apartment and went to work with my NSA waster. I apologize in advance for any misapplied terminology.
Some thoughts I developed from this first-time run with the pell:
-It is rather easy to aim a cut at a particular area, but precisely getting the sword to go exactly where you want it takes practice.
-I noticed this while flourishing a couple weeks ago, but this reinforced it: it is easier to aim the sword at a particular area (head, leg, whatever) when you have a reference point, like an actual target (pell) or a stationary object you can direct your flourish towards.
-A cut from above, either vertically or from an angle (zornhau?) is defiantly and noticeably much more powerful than a cut from the side or below.
-A powerful thrust seems easier to deliver from the close or middle guard than from the ochs, but I think that’s a manner of practice.
-If you can keep your eyes open, you can actually SEE the pell deform and move as you strike it. Cool.
-Make sure the pipe is screwed tightly together, especially connecting the support frame to the vertical riser. Otherwise, a strong attack will cause the pell to fall over backwards. Theatrical, but it does get annoying.
-Caveat: if you are trying to thrust at the pell, having the pipe loose enough that it gives way when the tip of your sword hits is good.
-If you’re not careful, a false-edge cut can tweak your leading wrist weird—and it can hurt.
-Though it is fairly easy to chain multiple cuts together into a flourish, recovery can be much more difficult when the sword is stopped by its target.
-You get more double-takes, odd looks, and comments with a pell than when just flourishing.
-I found a rising cut from the tail guard to be more versatile and powerful than I originally thought, as it can be directed at the leg, hip, body, or head with equal ease.
-Gloves would be a good thing.
-At first, I had a tendency to attack with only the last few inches of the blade. With some effort, I think I managed to break myself of this and attack more with the center of percussion.
-Striking with a passing step feels rather natural, but attacking with a pass back seems to be less intuitive.
-Attacks from the middle or close guard feel slower than attacks from ochs or the high guard.
-I noticed I tend to not attack straight on, but will attack more from the side. Also, at the completion of the attack, I tend to be about half a step to the side of my starting point in the direction of the attack (i.e. if I strike a zornhau from my right to left, at the completion of the strike, I’ll be half a step to the left of my original position). I am not sure if this is normal or good/bad. It just happens.
-I would recommend a thicker, more resilient, and more durable padding than pool noodles. This is based on the following observations and occurrences:
-Occasionally, a cut, particularly a strong one like a zornhau, will strike the gap between two noodles. The noodles will still cushion the blow some, but the metallic clang is disconcerting.
-Related: The edge of my waster is now slightly dented (very slightly, hardly noticeable). Interestingly, I noticed an odd waffle texture to the dents, matches the weave of the canvas I used for the sleeve.
-In a couple of places, a zornhau managed to actually CUT the pool noodle. The canvas was unaffected, but there was definite damage to the noodle. I don’t think I was swinging all that hard—I’m no muscle-man.
-In one thrust I was surprised to see a hole form in the canvas. I thought the tip somehow managed to perfectly hit the gap between two noodles, but upon inspection, I found the path of the sword tore a gash in the side of one of the noodles. There is now a 1.5-inch vertical slice in the canvas cover. Only two threads that run along the length of the hole are broken, but every horizontal thread that cross the cut is neatly snapped.

If this goes over well, I’ll probably write follow-up “thoughts” from my first time test-cutting (if I ever find a place I can do it without getting arrested) and my first time sparring (if I can ever find a partner).
Now to get around to filling out that ARMA membership application…

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Re: First Day at the Pell: Thoughts and observati

Postby Byron Doyle » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:19 pm

It looks like you used the pell design by Stuart Feil on the website, right? I've been thinking of building one of those.

You say that it seems harder to recover when there is something stopping your cut. Try using twitching; that is, if you do, say, a zwerchhau up high (to the head), and it strikes the pell, that hit will give you momentum that you can add to the next cut, which can be, for example, a zwerchhau around to the other side. Even if your cut is stopped, the flow can be maintained by utilizing that impact. Twitching works great against an opponent with a strong guard: hit them a few times, and eventually you can defeat their defense by overwhelming them. Stew here at ARMA Provo can attest to its affectiveness: he uses it all the time, and, well, it's dang scary. I use it in bouting as well, but the big idea with it is speed. Outspeed the other guy's defense, and be fast enough that you don't leave too much of an opening.

As for working with the pell I would suggest doing twitching exercises, and make sure to move around the pell as well, while doing everything. You have all the room around your enemy, and moving around the pell will help you to learn to utilize that room. Also, practice tempo just like you would in a florysh, and ranging as well. Try to see what you can do when up close to the pell, and what you can do while further away, and even without striking distance.

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Re: First Day at the Pell: Thoughts and observati

Postby Mason Pluzak » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:03 pm

Same thing with me. I'm a student as well and made a pell for the Easter weekend at my family's cottage. I hade a piece of plywood as the base and had a 2*4 for the hitting part of the pell (Surrounded by noodles though without the canvas). I learned quickly that the canvas or some sort of cover would most likely help greatly. Every noodle was cut into 5 pieces. :P

But it is a lot better to hit an actual target then to just swing at the air.

What is a flourysh, what is the purpose of them, and how would I learn one? (Assuming that's what they're for. (Is it like a Kata?))
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Re: First Day at the Pell: Thoughts and observati

Postby Byron Doyle » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:48 am

A florysh is basically like a kata, except for the fact that it is not a pre-determined routine. It could be best described as 'shadow fencing', like fighting an invisible opponent (or opponents). So basically, make stuff up as you go. It helps with fundamentals as well as working on variety of techniques, timing, etc.
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Re: First Day at the Pell: Thoughts and observations

Postby Jake_Norwood » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:01 am

@Bryan- That pell frame type actually first appeared in an article by Greg Mele which was later adapted by Stew. Does Stew still have the one I built up there? It's pretty nice.

@Eric- Working with a pell is great, isn't it? Try covering your pool noodles with carpet instead of canvas (or use both). It will protect your weapon and padding better. You can use either side of the carpet--it doesn't really matter, I think.

You were right before to hit with the last few inches of the sword. Hitting with the "center of percussion" is nice, but on a real sword it tends to be up nearer to the tip, so continue to practice both ways. Learn to strike not only the target you want, but also with different parts of the sword at will.

Stepping to the side and pivoting so that you "flank" your pell is a triangle step, and it--not a pass foward or back--should be your default, primary movement.

Try your unterhau from the right with the same motion you're using now, but hit with the short edge. You'll still end in ochs/hengen. Try it. Much more power. Like lots of it.

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Re: First Day at the Pell: Thoughts and observations

Postby ElizabethPangerl » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:06 am

Another pell mishap:

My husband Steve &amp; I are fairly new at the longsword, too. We built our pell with a concrete base, wooden core, flat noodle padding, and a ballistic nylon cover. Steve's first zwerchaw at it caught a gap in the padding, cut the padding, and split the waster. Too much concrete in the base means less give higher up and the noodle padding I could find wasn't the recommended shape. We still use the wooden wasters for practicing the non-impact solo drills, but we got one of the new wasters out of Appleton to use on the pell until we make another pell.
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Re: First Day at the Pell: Thoughts and observati

Postby Byron Doyle » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:24 pm

Does Stew still have the one I built up there?


If you're referring to his crazy H-Frame pell, then yes he does.

When I go home to Colorado Springs next week I plan on building my own based on Stew's article. And it seems that I always end up giving credit to the aggregator of equipment designs instead of the true designer... Seems I need a disclaimer:

Credit given where credit is due, mind not my ramblings.

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