Few questions on Ringeck - ARMA public domain offering

[Eric White]

I've spent the weekend going over ARMA's free translation of Sigmund Ringeck. The http://www.thearma.org/Manuals/Ringeck.htm
It's only a portion, as stated outright in the explanatory notes at the beginning. Is the rest in the members section?

Particularly, I'm looking for the sections on the "hanging" and the "winding" that are referenced in the beginning of the ARMA's document; they're number 15 and 16 respectively under the "Overview of the Fighting Techniques" section.

[Jaron Bernstein]

I've spent the weekend going over ARMA's free translation of Sigmund Ringeck. The http://www.thearma.org/Manuals/Ringeck.htm
It's only a portion, as stated outright in the explanatory notes at the beginning. Is the rest in the members section?

Particularly, I'm looking for the sections on the "hanging" and the "winding" that are referenced in the beginning of the ARMA's document; they're number 15 and 16 respectively under the "Overview of the Fighting Techniques" section.

There are published versions of Ringeck available for sale from Svard/Lindholm and Tobler. Just bear in mind that the modern interpretations contained therein are just that. They have changed and will continue to change as this Art revives. Both of them do provide the primary Ringeck text for you to work from.

[Peter Giannini]

There are published versions of Ringeck available for sale from Svard/Lindholm and Tobler. Just bear in mind that the modern interpretations contained therein are just that. They have changed and will continue to change as this Art revives. Both of them do provide the primary Ringeck text for you to work from.

Jaron,

I found a a book titled Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly Arts of the longsword. Is this what you were talking about? Here's the link.

http://www.amazon.com/Sigmund-Ringecks-Knightly-Art-Longsword/dp/1581604106/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260822229&sr=1-1

[Randall Pleasant]

I found a a book titled Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly Arts of the longsword. Is this what you were talking about?

Yes, that is one of the best translations of Ringeck. I also make good use of Tobler's translation of Ringeck, most often using both books together.

Please note that the interpretations in both books have some major weaknesses and differ significantly from the interpretation used within ARMA.

[Peter Giannini]

Yes, that is one of the best translations of Ringeck. I also make good use of Tobler's translation of Ringeck, most often using both books together.

Please note that the interpretations in both books have some major weaknesses and differ significantly from the interpretation used within ARMA.

Randall,

Towards the first part you said, those were the two books that I was looking into, and I think i might invest in both.

Secondly, you say that both books have weaknesses and differ significantly from the interpretation used within ARMA. In that case, how can I know what the interpretation ARMA uses. That is what I would like to use, and I don't want to be training with the wrong thing.

[Greg Coffman]

I'm pretty sure that ARMA's understanding of krumphau is quite a bit different that anything else out there. I don't know what other differences there might be.

[Stacy Clifford]

As I mentioned in the other thread, there is no official "ARMA interpretation" for the manual as a whole, only the parts within. Your goal at first should be to learn the core body mechanics of RMA using the resources available to you here, and then learn how those apply to what you read in the manuals. Learning what's possible will help you unlock what the masters recommend. Until you can attend a seminar, the way you're doing things now is just how we got as far as we have: read the manual, try out what you think, share and discuss with others, ask questions, and go back and apply feedback and try again. The process feeds on itself.

Also, if you haven't yet, read this article:

http://www.thearma.org/essays/core_assumptions.html

You can't understand ARMA's conclusions, individually or collectively, unless you understand our starting assumptions.