Hidden manuals in Russia? interesting article.

[JohnDemick]

This article seems to think so. I think it even has a short except on hand-to-hand combat.

http://www.uni-wuerzburg.de/kriegsbild/fg53.htm

If you can't read Russian, there is a discussion on another forum about the article here:
http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53144&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

[Gene Tausk]

Ummmmm....I'm fluent in Russian and that article you posted looks to me like its in German, which I do not speak.

Am I missing something?


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[JohnDemick]

Ahh well, I dont know how to speak any of those languages, lol. (nor did I imply that I could)

Sorry, I skimmed through the thread and the person that posted that article made it seem like to me that the language was in Russian.

Well, ethier way, it was interesting information when I read the thread. I even posted to see if there was an English translation, but no one responded yet. <img src="/forum/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" />

[Brian Hunt]

This article is definetly in German.

Brian Hunt
GFS.

[J.Amiel_Angeles]

Mr. Demick, I followed the link to that forum and saw that the Germans usurped the FIE (which is well-known, Heydrich Reinhardt was a passionate fencer) and carted away the FIE's archives. If I remember, somebody in this forum once posted scans of a Hitler Jugend longsword manual. Perhaps the Nazis really did uncover some longsword manuals and use them? The SS was obsessed with the Teutonic Knights and Himmler even took over a castle and used it as a sort of pseudo-chivalric resort for his SS officers. Reprehensible as it may sound, but has anybody ever looked into these Hitler Jugend manuals or this "hidden documents" angle or in what sort of 'fencing' they did in this castle?

It would have been a remarkable irony if they did do longsword work and remembering the contributions of the Jewish fight masters.

[Jared L. Cass]

Here's the WWII german thread you are thinking of:
http://www.thearma.org//forum/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=openresearch&amp;Number=36&amp;page=95&amp;view=collapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1

It's pretty interesting and I think that more research into this subject would be at least interesting if not also helpful to us today.

The cooleist (and ironic) thing about this "nazi youth" sword manual (the link above) is that Israeli ARMA member Noah Gross was the one that brought it to attention:)

Jared L. Cass, ARMA Associate, Wisconsin