What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

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What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby shim soo min » Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:29 am

I've never seen the word, "Two hand fencing sword",
but...

I've read a japanese book "Sword & Blade"
(by Ichikawa Sadaharu)
it contains many swords data (but simple)
and I found that sword, "two hand fencing sword".

this book saids, "two hand fencing sword is used in 1500s~"
and its illust like two-hander.
This book contains only simple datas,
so I have no details.

What is Two-hand fencing sword?

please help me.


Thank you very much for reading
and Sorry about my poor english.
(My english have no development. -_-;;)

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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby GeorgeHill » Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:37 am

Hard to tell. Is it a European weapon?

Remember that 'fencing' means 'practising the sword.'
That means any sword practice can be considered fencing.
This could mean any two handed sword that was for practise.

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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby Douglas S » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:40 am

Since it is a Japanese source, I would assume shinai or bokken.
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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby Stacy Clifford » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:43 pm

You can read an article here about two-handed European greatswords:

http://www.thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html

If your source is referring to an Asian weapon however, that's really outside our specialty.
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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby shim soo min » Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:50 pm

Thank you for answers.


the book contains european medieval and renaissance swords.
I think, the book's writer have a wrong idea about two-hander or some other sword.

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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby Allen Johnson » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:55 pm

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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby philippewillaume » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:08 am

or it could be the sword depicted in meyer. ie a training sword

would it be possible to have have an illustration or rough drawing ?
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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby GaryGrzybek » Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:57 am

Hi,

It would be very helpful if you could give us the title or author. Can this book be found through the internet?

We have a vast amount of materials here concerning the use of swords long enough to be used with two hands. Feel free to read on and ask questions.
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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby Jared L. Cass » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:18 am

I agree with Philippe. If I were to guess I'd think maybe what the author was talking about is what most in the WMA community refer to as a "Fechtbuch sword".

Arms and Armor make one that can be seen here:

http://www.armor.com/2000/catalog/item187.html

If one were to litterly interpret "two hand fencing sword", this fits the bill the closest IMO.

Maybe that'll help you out.

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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby John_Clements » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:13 pm

This is off topic for our Forum. We deal in European swords and fencing.
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Re: What is "Two hand fencing sword" ?

Postby shim soo min » Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:47 am

Thank you for answer, Mr. Jared L. Cass
(and thank you for all readers and answers.)

"Fechtbuch sword" is the same sword as the book's illust.

Thank you for your suggestion. It's very helpful.


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