Liechtenauer's sword and buckler vrs longsword

[Victor Hansen]

I've been looking into Liechtenauer's sword and buckler and longsword material and just wondered if anyone familiar with the wards and techniques of the system care to comment on who would have the advantage of two fighters, one armed with sword and buckler the other with longsword.

[Mike Cartier]

for the longsword man, distance and the thrust is your friend

for the Sword & Buckler tying up the longsword mid strike and closing is your friend

[Brian Hunt]

The obvious answer is, the better fighter will have the advantage, whether he is using the S&B or the longsword.

Brian Hunt
GFS

[Victor Hansen]

well if I throw in equal skill of both opponents does that make much of a difference there? I'm just trying to see if people think one weapon combination of fighting is superior/inferior to the other in techniques. thanks.

[Casper Bradak]

You could ask Master SIlver, he has a good deal to say about it.

[Brian Hunt]

As Mike already intimated, at that point it comes down to understanding your weapons. The longsword has a greater reach, power and leverage, the sword and buckler has the advantage of being able to get in closer, plus it is good for tying up your opponents weapon, and you have the ability to strike with either the buckler or the sword. Having fought with sword and bucker against longsword and won, and doing the reverse and winning, it is about understanding your weapons. The real thing to remember is that you are not fightings swords and bucklers, you are fighting the man that is using them. The real weapon is the man, not the tools. That is who you have to defeat.

just some thoughts on this.

Brian Hunt
GFS

[Patrick Hardin]

Yes, the real key here is knowing how best to exploit the strengths and weaknesses of each weapon. Every weapon has certain strengths and certain weaknesses to serve different purposes. To use a more extreme example, a spear has reach, but cannot be employed as usefully in grappling as a dagger. The dagger however has no reach, and must overcome the reach of the spear. It's all checks and balances. No one weapon or weapon combination will neccesarily be superior to another. That's why knights and soldiers carried more than one weapon. <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> So in the end, it kind of does all come down to skill.

Patrick Hardin

[Jaron Bernstein]

Just a side comment. Dobringer is big on trying to hit your opponent, rather than his weapon. While he is speaking more of longsword vs. longsword, I think that can be applicable to any combination of tools.

[KatherineJohnson]

The real weapon is the man, not the tools. That is who you have to defeat.

Very well put.