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Traveling with weapons...

Postby Shane Smith » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:07 pm

I had occasion recently to travel cross country via airplane to attend an ARMA event. This was my first time not simply driving my gear to my destination. I learned a few things.

1. You can travel with wasters and blunts as long as they are checked baggage.

2. You can fit 100 pounds of armour and gear into three normal-sized suitcases <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />

3. You can count on being interogated by the friendly TSA agents if you are carrying what appear to be body-parts and swords simultaneously in your luggage.

4. You can count on having your things riffled through once you walk away and being left a "we were here" card from the agents mentioned above that you will discover upon arrival at your destination.

5. You must be ready to accept the fact that your wasters may be broken when you finally get them in your possession again(mine certainly were it seems).

As stated above, the pommels on both of the wasters in my case were literally separating from the hilts when I took them out for the event in question. They worked fine until they took the plane ride...Now they are destroyed(Maybe threaded rods and epoxied fasteners look like contraband on X-ray machines?),

Have you ever suffered such horrors at the hands of the airlines? Is this an isolated incident perhaps?
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Re: Traveling with weapons...

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:27 pm

SS:

The last time I flew, TSA insisted upon taking out the liner of the gun-case in which I had my swords padlocked, and needed to see all the blades bare from their sheaths before allowing reassembly of all elements and relocking of said case. Moreover, they may insist upon a check-out receipt at the baggage claim of the destination-airport, without the courtesy of informing you.

If possible, just send stuff well packed and insured by UPS to someone trustowrthy at your destination. That way, you do not have to deal with TSA hassle or pay an airline extra money for special or overweight luggage.

Sorry to read about your problems, I do understand.

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Re: Traveling with weapons...

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:48 pm

..And of course you would want to save your boxes to re-pack the gear and re-ship it back to your origin.

Look up prices online -- the cost may be lower than you think, and some shippers can pick up at your residence.

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Re: Traveling with weapons...

Postby Shane Smith » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:11 pm

You may well be on to something here. I just "assumed" that shipping costs would be outrageous based on paying 20 bucks to have even a single sword shipped anywhere.
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Re: Traveling with weapons...

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:45 pm

SS:

As an example, which I just reckoned five minutes ago:

I did get an estimate from an unnamed prominent shipper, for shipping say three sheathed and well-packed swords. If the package is 13 pounds, box-dimension 52x15x03, residential pickup, arranged a week ahead over the web, from Kansas City MO to Portland OR, insured for US$ 500, for a total shipping cost just under:

US$ 31 -- thus US$ 62 there and back again.

BTW: The last time an unnamed airline aribitrarily decided to charge me extra for taking my weaponry as cargo-luggage, it cost me US$ 80 -- that was over three years ago. It probably costs more now typically. And if you have to change aircraft during a stop-over, then so does the luggage, and thus more worry as your stuff gets shuffled to-and-fro again.

So yeah, it may behoove you to ship instead of it taking with you on airplane.

Good luck,

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Re: Traveling with weapons...

Postby robrobertson » Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:08 am

a few years ago I had an episode with the law that was pretty tramatic. It would take entirely too long to post it here. Old friends of mine from the SCA told me that I should write an article as a warning. Would ARMA be interested in looking at it, and who would I need to submit it to?

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Postby Webmaster » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:55 pm

You can send the article to me at webmaster@thearma.org and we'll review it. It's certainly an appropriate topic for active practitioners.
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Re: Traveling with weapons...

Postby Björn Sollander » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:57 am

I went to Germany by airplane two years ago. I kept my blunt and my wasters in a fishingrod bag. At the Arlanda airport in Sweden i checked the luggage in as "special luggage". The luggage was then separated from the usuall luggage and kept standing upp. I had no problem or any damage made on my stuff.

As it looks like a riflebag doesn´t make it any easier to travel and go through the foreign customs. I was constantly stopped in Holland and Germany and had to unpack my bag several times explaining why i was traveling with swords.

The best thing happened when i was going through the customs in Germany on my way to Holland. When they scanned my bag the first time they saw nothing but clothes, on the next scan wich was deeper this time, suddenly a large sword appered covering the whole bag. The guys in the customs started to laugh and rotated the monitor to the security guards and they started to laugh to. They described a scenario where i was running down the corridor hijacking the plane. "it´s not my handluggage, i replyed"

I was flying with three diffrent airplanes and had no big problem bringing my blunts and wasters as long as i checked the bag in as "special luggage".

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