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Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Alfred Wong » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:59 am

Dear all,

I am saving up to buy myself a sword. And it seems that Albion is the best choice. It raise up to my concern that, although their blades are very nice, I don't know if they can sustain heavy duty usage. I am a careless guy and I am afraid that I will pit the pommel, bend guard or such easily... does anyone has any experience with these parts of the Albion sword? I afraid that I will damage those beautiful parts...

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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby David Kite » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:23 pm

Well. . . with the exception of their Maestro-line and maybe their Squire-line, all of their swords are sharp and therefore not intended for 2 person drills or sparring. As such, their hilts becoming pitted and bent probably won't be an issue, unless you drop it or something. <img src="/forum/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Their swords are intended to be as durable as the "real thing", and having done some hard target test cutting with mine, I am reasonably certain that they are.

You should be aware however that any sword will be damaged from usage, sharp or not, Albion or not. If you plan on doing some hard target test cutting, expect damage to the edge, particularly blunting and some rolling of the edge along the contact area. The issue as far as I am aware is whether the sword sustained more damage than it should have. I consider damage to the hilt, and somewhat to the blade (both within reasonable limits of course) to add character to the sword, and is almost a way of personalizing it. ("See this? This one's mine!")

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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Alfred Wong » Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:16 am

Dear David,

Thanks for the tips. I am looking for a sturdy sword...

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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby David Kite » Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:00 pm

As it sounds as though you're wanting something for drills or sparring, then you won't want the NextGens or the Museum Line, but rather the Squire or Maesto Lines. I seriously doubt there is any problem with durability with any of their swords, but as many of them are sold sharp, then obviously you won't be using them for drills or sparring.

And, along those lines, as I've said, if you use it, then it will get damaged, but I doubt it will get ruined such as with a bent guard or anything.

I don't mean to hijack the topic or detract from Albion's swords, as they were what you were asking about, but if you're wanting something that's durable, then you cannot go wrong with Lutel . I've said such many times before, but I've put my Lutel through a lot of abuse, and actually had to try to damage it. And as many others will testify, here and elsewhere, they make awesome blunts. Plus, depending on the exchange rate of Czech vs your own currency, they may be pretty darn cheap as well! My only complaint is their screw-on pommels, which pop loose quite a bit, but never enough to be a danger, IMO.

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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Matthew_Anderson » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:18 pm

Yes, I've had a Lutel for several years now and I really beat the crap out of it with no problems at all. I was concerned about the screw-on pommel as well but it has never loosened a bit. Plus, you can always unscrew the pommel and throw it at your opponent as shown in "Gladiatoria".
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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Alfred Wong » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:37 am

The discriptions from you guys are very interesting indeed... hee hee. Actually I was thinking about to get one from A&amp;A, Albion or Tinker when I started the thread. My friend just had an accident with his sword from Albion that, I afraid that is a really big problem for me a careless guy to handle such an expensive sword. And so I think now... looking at my budget and the condition, I will get a custom sword from Tinker with some interesting spec.

Thanks for the tips anyway, where's the "pommel-throw" illustration in Gladiatoria actually? Seems that I cannot find it... <img src="/forum/images/icons/blush.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Allen Johnson » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:47 am

Look here- very last image on the bottom right hand corner of the first page <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

http://www.thearma.org/Manuals/Gladiatoria/Gladiatoria.htm
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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Alfred Wong » Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:46 am

Thanks Allen, whoa, I just love those pommel strikes!
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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Matthew_Anderson » Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:31 am

Alfred, I sent you a private message.
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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Alfred Wong » Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:22 am

Got it Matt. Please check your mail.
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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby JeffGentry » Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:13 am

Hey Alfred

There are a couple of realy wicked pommel and tip throw's from the half sword illustrated in Meyer, me and Jaron have used them that is the beauty of being in a martial art's school and having mat's, i wouldn't do it out side or with out a mat though you hit the ground pretty hard.

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Re: Some question about Albion's blade...

Postby Alfred Wong » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:25 am

I see Jeff. Lance knows that I love to use pommel strike, and once I used a custom RSW-sword he made for me to tenderize some lamb, and he got pretty annoyed with it - sorry Lance!

Right now I am still concentrating in the basic cuts, and half-swording is what I am going to do next. I will take a look at Meyer after my exam - and yes, I won't risk my sword's pommel in "um-matted" grounds for sure, and yet I will have to save up for a set of plates to start armoured trainning. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

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