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Information about the Paladin

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 01, 2003 5:48 pm

I've looked around the web, to find information about real Paladins that have existed. Not the "fantasy" kind, but the ones that are in a way, considered to be the "Elite" knights.

I stumbled upon this site, as I read a artical about the "European Knight vs Japanese Samurai", it was a very impressive artical.

Anyhow, my question is...

"Is there any information of real Paladins that have existed, there armor, swords, and the alike?"

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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby Lance Chan » Thu Jan 02, 2003 12:29 am

I'm not sure about it but I've heard that paladin was just knight who vowed loyality to the church, instead of any lords.

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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 02, 2003 1:50 am

I heard they were also used as personal body guards for some leaders/kings. Not sure how true that is though.

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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby Tony_Indurante » Thu Jan 02, 2003 2:47 am

Here is some information.

pal·a·din n.
A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion.
A strong supporter or defender of a cause: “the paladin of plain speaking” (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).
Any of the 12 peers of Charlemagne's court.

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[French, from Italian paladino (Italian for champion), from Late Latin paltnus, palatine. See palatine1.]

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paladin

Pal"a*din, n. [F., fr.It. paladino, fr. L. palatinus an officer of the palace. See Palatine.] A knight-errant; a distinguished champion; as, the paladins of Charlemagne. --Sir W. Scott.


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


paladin

n : someone who fights for a cause [syn: champion, fighter, hero]


Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University


pal·a·tine1 n.

A soldier of the palace guard of the Roman emperors, formed in the time of Diocletian.
A soldier of a major division of the Roman army formed in the time of Constantine I.
Used as a title for various administrative officials of the late Roman and Byzantine empires.
A feudal lord exercising sovereign power over his lands. Also called palsgrave.

adj.
Belonging to or fit for a palace.
Of or relating to a palatine or palatinate.


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[From Middle English, ruled by an independent lord, from Old French palatin, from Late Latin paltnus, palace official, from Latin paltnus, from Paltium, imperial residence. See palace.]

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palatine

Pal"a*tine, a. [F. palatin, L. palatinus, fr. palatium. See Palace, and cf. Paladin.] Of or pertaining to a palace, or to a high officer of a palace; hence, possessing royal privileges.

count palatine
n. pl. counts palatine

Any of various noblemen originally exercising certain royal powers within their own domains, especially a count of the Holy Roman Empire having sovereign powers in his own territories.
A feudal lord having sovereign powers over his lands.
The titled proprietor of a county palatine in England or Ireland.


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count palatine

Count Count, n. [F. conte, fr. L. comes, comitis, associate, companion, one of the imperial court or train, properly, one who goes with another; com- + ire to go, akin to Skr. i to go.] A nobleman on the continent of Europe, equal in rank to an English earl.

Note: Though the tittle Count has never been introduced into Britain, the wives of Earls have, from the earliest period of its history, been designated as Countesses. --Brande &amp; C.

Count palatine. (a) Formerly, the proprietor of a county who possessed royal prerogatives within his county, as did the Earl of Chester, the Bishop of Durham, and the Duke of Lancaster. [Eng.] See County palatine, under County. (b) Originally, a high judicial officer of the German emperors; afterward, the holder of a fief, to whom was granted the right to exercise certain imperial powers within his own domains. [Germany]
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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby Gene Tausk » Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:54 am

Our rules clearly state that real names are to be used. Please review the guidelines for posting before making any furhter posts on our boards.
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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 02, 2003 1:08 pm

This *is* my real name...

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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 02, 2003 1:11 pm

Thanks for the information, so I'm assuming there wasn't really a specific class of the "Paladin"? More of just a title?

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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby Gene Tausk » Thu Jan 02, 2003 5:47 pm

Your first name is a city in the U.S. and your last name is a martial art? My compliments to your parents...

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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby George Turner » Fri Jan 03, 2003 1:29 am

Hi Dallas,

You did luck out on the name. It's way better than something like "Indiana Jones". Though if you go to Hollywood, they'll probably want you to change it to something cheesy like "Dallas Tempo", and put you in a really bad T.V. series as some sort of private detective. But I'm curious about your age. Do you predate "Doonesbury"? Also, are you very familiar with historical Polish weapons? I have some interesting questions about their design.

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Re: Information about the Paladin

Postby Guest » Fri Jan 03, 2003 1:58 am

I do not know much about any medieval Polish weapons, armor, or kingdoms (though I'm wanting to know). I have little knowledge to this sort of stuff, thats why I registered.

I also found out, the letter "o" at the end of "Kempo" was the last letter taken from a Italian name (from one of the sides of my family), so it basically is a Polish/Italian name, only merged.

However, if the "K" was switched to a "C", it would be "Cempo" instead of "Kempo".

Randall, I'm sort of releaved that people like yourself, suffer the same problem(s) as I do, though I don't wish that upon anyone of course.

Oh, I'm a couple weeks from being 16 years of age.


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