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Practice rapiers..

Postby JeffreyHendricks » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:02 pm

at this page scroll over the thumbnails at the left middle of the page....is the practice rapier worth the price?

http://www.swordacademy.com/academy-buysell/

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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Byron Doyle » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:55 am

I would just spend 15-25 bucks and build one of these rapier simulators, designed by the amazing Brian Hunt:

http://www.thearma.org/Practice/fiberglass-rapier-simulator.html

It's a wonderful design. Some modifications you may want to make:

-Shorten the cross about 2-3 inches - I left mine long because it keeps my hand relatively safer when fighting against longsword (I think anyways, it saved me once), but it's really personal preference

-Reinforce the cross with strapping tape - wrap strapping tape around the cross cross-wise (pun intended) in four spots: left and right 'inside' the bowl and left and right outside - I also reinforced mine with a good deal of super glue, but this is because my cross exploded when I didn't tape it in the first place

-for the pommel, you can make a screw on one by getting a 3/4 in. to 1 in. plumbing pipe 'converter' (I forgot what they're called, their metal and wider on one end than the other), and a 1 in. plug to screw into the backside of the pommel. You can get these at any hardware store. In order to screw it on you will probably need to wrap the end of the grip in strapping tape to accommadate the threads. Make sure to jam some hot glue into the threads as you screw it on, too. I filled this hollow pommel on mine with some buckshot to enhance balance.

-Wrap the grip in some tennis-grip wrap (I found some at K-Mart, but I'm sure any -Mart's sports section will do). The instructions suggest wrapping the grip in wire to promote balance, but with the plumbing pommel I detailed above you can actually forego the wire because you can add weight to the pommel.

-If you have the materials and tools, try forming a plastic bowl for the bell guard. Brian made one for mine and it's absolutely awesome.

Hope this helps. These things are well worth the time in my opinion.
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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Allen Johnson » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:24 am

That sword is this one here: http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/images/w1032gt.jpg
It's a CAS Iberia hilt with a double wide epee blade (aka Musketeer blade). I think $188 is almost too much for this. I am one of the few that just does not like the fiberglass simulators. If you are on a really tight budget then thats fine. But if your are already bugeted to spend $150 + then go ahead and get a steel one. Yeah the blades are bit more floppy than the originals- but how many of our other steel blunts are spot on from historical pieces? We do the best we can with as many tools as we can. I'd really advise saving a bit more and getting a Darkwood. I have a TCA rapier (apx $130) and one of the Hanwei Practical rapiers (apx. $165) and I'd gladly trade them both in for a Darkwood. You have a much wider variety as well as minor custom options. The Darkwood made blades are a bit stiffer than most of the others as well.
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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Brian Hunt » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:01 am

Hi Byron,

thanks for calling me amazing, but I have to give credit where credit is due. As it says in the article, my design is a modification of someone elses original work, not an complete orginal idea of my own. Must always strive to stay honest. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby JeffreyHendricks » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:59 am

Wow Mr. Hunt i think i might just try making that rapier....
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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Byron Doyle » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:40 pm

As it says in the article, my design is a modification of someone elses original work, not an complete orginal idea of my own.


Hm, must have missed that, just like I missed the bit about cross-taping the cross to the blade. <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Regardless, it is a great find, and you're still freaking amazing.
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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Brian Hunt » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:12 pm

If you have any questions while building one, I will be happy to answer them.

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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Nathan Dexter » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:24 pm

Hi,
Yea, I have made one of those, and I've found it very sutable to my needs; it is tough, good looking, and (most importantly) cheap <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> .
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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Brian Hunt » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:30 pm

Hi Allen,

I am going to have to find a way to put the cash aside for one of Darkwood's bare blades. I can save a lot of cash by having the skills to make my own complex hilt for the blade. I really wish I had the cash to do a purchase of every flexi-rapier blades currently being sold to do an actual serious evaluation and comparison of them, and write an article about that. I would love to be able to say hey, this blade works fairly well, but so far, I havn't personally handled one I really liked. I know that you and I don't see eye to eye on the entry value of the fiberglass simulators. Oh well, it's all good. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Allen Johnson » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:58 am

Hehe! You know me well enough to know my pokes at the fiberglass wasters are mostly based off ego and looking good <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /> It's that peacock of a Scot in me. Seriously though to all that are reading. The fiberglass wasters do a good job, I just personally like the steel better. It's a great alternative for those who might want to see what the rapier thing is about without dropping a few bills.
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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby JeffreyHendricks » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:13 am

I finally did it.....was really easy to understand and make, and cost me about $25.00

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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Brian Hunt » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:16 pm

Glad to know the directions were easy to understand. Looks good.

Good luck in your training.

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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Byron Doyle » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:25 pm

Hehe you used the mondo-cross. Some of the people here in Provo think I'm weird for having a giant cross on mine, as they all shortened theirs. Looks good.
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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby JeffreyHendricks » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:00 pm

Yeah, thanks, maybe the pommel is not big enough proportionaly or somthing, but it seems a bit heavy to me. How heavy are they supposed to weigh?
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Re: Practice rapiers..

Postby Brian Hunt » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:34 pm

between 2 to 4 pounds and a lot of historic rapiers balanced at about 22% - 26% of the way down the sword from the pommel. Here is an article that has some measurements and weights of museum rapiers. http://www.musketeer.org/Garrick/Blade_spec_article.html

hope this helps.

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