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Jaron Bernstein
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Demonstration advise?

Postby Jaron Bernstein » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:52 pm

We (the Columbus study group) will be giving 2 public demonstrations at the upcoming Ashville Viking Festival and OSU Medieval and Renn. Festival to show the flag and maybe generate some interest in the art. I know several of you have done similar things at similar events.

Any advice? What should we do and what to avoid?

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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby Shane Smith » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:26 am

Avoid calling the re-enactors out by dismissing what they do totally. Simply let your audience know that you are showing them period martial arts and that you will be showing them the difference between showy theatrical play and real, deadly efficient swordplay.

Put on an exciting demo...Don't drone on at length about Masters and the like and what they said, rather, show them in a dramatic and dynamic manner what they said. Don't overly explain anything that lends itself to dynamic execution. For instance, don't tell them how to perform a mighty throw from a bind...until you show them with intent. Keep it moving and keep it powerful! Add in a bit of freeplay to show them what they need to see... Maybe a test-cutting as well.

Matt and I will being doing a demonstration at the Virginia Mariners Museum in June and I agree with you that it is a great way to educate the public concerning our craft. Good luck!
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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:26 pm

I base this not upon doing a demo at a Renfaire, but upon experiences practicing in public parks; making improptu demonstrations; witnessing hecklers at RenFaires and other outdoor events like concerts and so forth; and as a life-long witness to the generally rotten nature of far-too-many humans:

Try to ignore any swag-beer drunks -- you know, the cretins with bellowing mouths, belly-bags and white ball-caps. Or be sarcastic in reply if you like. But if they get out of hand, then just request the attendant security do their job and remove said entities from the area. It is not your responsiblility to demonstrate your weaponry prowess by turning such unsavoury characters into living pells (although you may be justifiably tempted to do so).

Sorry, no negativity meant, I just want to warn you to prepare yourself for such in the sincere hope that everything shall instead go smashingly well for you.

Good luck and have fun!
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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby Jaron Bernstein » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:03 pm

Got it, be very diplomatic.

I was thinking of bringing all the manuals we have for people to read through, showing basic stances and footwork, some test cutting, free play and showing some of the "gee whiz" nifty techniques, then answering any questions folks might have.

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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby Jeffrey Hull » Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:09 pm

That sounds like a good eclectic plan. <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby JeffGentry » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:31 pm

JH

This particular event is done by a local elemetary school, and they are trying to keep it somewhat historical and educational so they will not have beer there fortunately

I think this is about the 3rd year they have actualy opened it to the public, the historical part is somewhat lacking in my opinion, thought it might be a good way to spread the "gospel" and start to educate the kiddie's a little, since they will have the kloppefechters and leichmiesters.

It may even be fun.

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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby Patrick Kelly » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:43 am

Some good advice has been offered so far and I believe I may be able to add to it. While I'm not a member of ARMA, and while my material may be different than yours, I think some basic principles still apply.

This last weekend we attended a small renfaire in Wichita, KS. Here's a photo of what I was wearing.
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Considering this was a renfaire (with the usual stereotypes) and not a living history event I think everyone can assume that I was the most 'historical' one there. As can be seen, my main interest lies with the equipment of the Normans during the 11th century.

Over the last year my wife and I have been attending events of this type with friends and I have also given quite a few presentations for organizations such as the Boy Scouts, local highschools, elementary schools, etc. At this particular event I was approached about giving a presentation at a larger non-renfaire venue in downtown Wichita later this year.

These experiences have proven a few things to me: The average person isn't as stupid as we'd like to believe. Even if they don't know anything about the subject they can tell the difference between a quality presentation and one that's been thrown together and displayed with ignorance. In fact, the general public seems to be getting a bit more sophisticated in what they want. The standard SCA demo that we've all seen at renfaires for decades really doesn't seem to hold their interest anymore. When your presentation is more historically focused and more "real world" rather than "let's pretend" they eat it up. In this sense this is the perfect time to get out there and spread the word as the public seems to be ready for it.

One thing to remember is that you need to approach your audience with an assumption of ignorance. What I mean by that is assume they know nothing about the subject. This means avoiding the use of complicated and, to them, obscure terminology. Explain what you're doing and why in plain english. Also remember that you're only hitting the high points. You have a limited time to communicate so don't try to jam everything in. Approach it with the mindset that your mission is to generate interest. Your objective is to make them want to go find out more on their own, not to turn them into scholars of arms. Give them the tools and point them in the right direction. One very helpfull thing is to write out an outline of your presentation. This will help you be more organized and fluid. It will also help you avoid being sidetracked by any questions that pop up.

Another point, and probably the most important one, is to check your own attitude. Nobody's interested in listening to a know-it-all criticize other methods or groups. "We're better because...." won't win you any points with the audience. People don't respond well to members of the "look at me" club. You may very well have people in the audience who are self-proclaimed experts. Don't feel you have to get into a contest to prove your point, simply bypass them and move on. You won't change their mind, because they're just there to argue not to learn. Checking your ego cancels out theirs. Simply let your presentation and the information speak for itself.

There are many people out there who share your interest but who feel intimidated. Your gear may be better and you may seem to know more and they'd like to approach you but they won't, probably because they've had contact with arrogant jerks from the "look at me" club in the past. This happens to me at every event I attend, including this last weekend. On several occasions I was being followed by people who were obviously interested in my equipment but wouldn't approach. Fortunately my very perceptive wife picked up on this on eventually waved them over. I don't care if my stuff's better than yours, we all started somewhere. I also love meeting people who know more than me because I learn something from it.

Rather than approach the subject from the point of "Our job is to correct the mistakes of those other dumbies.", go into it from the standpoint of "This is so cool and exciting that I want to share it with you." Attitude is everything.

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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby Gene Tausk » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:52 pm

OSU Mid/Renn fest? Wow, that brings back a blast from the past.

Is the Honors Department still running that one? If so, you might want to talk with the Dept. Chairperson to see if they might support your efforts. Explain to them about ARMA and ARMA's purpose. When I was there, the chairperson was more than happy to go out of her way to support projects that were authentic. Can't speak for the department now, but who knows, it's worth a shot.

By "support," BTW, I mean perhaps providing a student volunteer to help you guys out, perhaps arranging for the Columbus group to give a special demo for the Honors dept or the Mid/Renn faculty.

Good luck.


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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby Jaron Bernstein » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:33 pm

Well the viking festival went well.

The test cutting and sparring were big hits with crowd. Apparently the kids enjoyed it. I got a chance to do free play against a Roman era reenactor (longsword and S&amp;B vs. big shield and gladius), an SCA guy and a few others, as well as sparring with our study group regulars for a crowd. We showed some of the ringen am schwert and schwertnem. We had several in depth talks with folks after the demonstration part about the history and details of the art. We also did some meyer staff interpretation and showed a bit of that. The organizer complimented us and we were very diplomatic with all.

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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby Aaron Pynenberg » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:06 pm

It's important for us to get out there and talk to folks, good job Jaron, keep up the good work!-
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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby JeffGentry » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:11 pm

One of the other group's, A Landsknecht re-enactment group, said they were going to start calling us the sword geek's, it was done in a complimetary manner so i think our knowledge and fighting skill did empress them.

We were invited back next year.

Jaron did have his way with a couple people who wanted to spar.

it was also alot of fun.

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Re: Demonstration advise?

Postby jeremy pace » Tue May 02, 2006 8:06 am

Yeah, not cool when you are trying to prove the validity of your art and you get whipped by buffalos in front of everyone.... I try and do the opposite. When people at fairs are putting on demos and have freeplay i go out like i know nothing and halfsword/mastercut like theres no tomorrow. <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> Sometimes the best teacher is by example..... not words.
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