West of Scotland...

For Historical European Fighting Arts, Weaponry, & Armor

Moderators: Webmaster, Stacy Clifford

User avatar
Jaron Bernstein
Posts: 1108
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:58 am

Re: West of Scotland...

Postby Jaron Bernstein » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:19 am

Ye need to register with you actual full name. :D

User avatar
louie Pastore
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 pm
Location: Inverclyde

Re: West of Scotland...

Postby louie Pastore » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:46 am

ANYONE IN THE STRATHCLYDE AREA TRAINING IN WMA?

Louie
Last edited by louie Pastore on Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:40 am, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Gene Tausk
Posts: 556
Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2002 7:37 pm
Location: Houston, TX

Re: West of Scotland...

Postby Gene Tausk » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:56 am

louie wrote:
Jaron Bernstein wrote:Ye need to register with you actual full name. :D


Hi Jaron....

I believe I did that when I registered and had the email reply from ARMA telling me my registration was successful....

:oops: Apologies If I've made an error
The name's Louie Pastore

Louie


Please re-register with your full first and last name. If there is a problem with the system, please let me or another moderator know about it.

Welcome to the ARMA forums.
------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>gene tausk
Free-Scholar
Study Group Leader - Houston ARMA Southside
ARMA Forum Moderator

User avatar
Allen Johnson
Posts: 638
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:43 am
Location: Columbia, SC

Postby Allen Johnson » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:58 am

Welcome Louie! I just got finished reading the section that you and Christopher Thompson co-wrote in "Highland Knife Fighting".

For those of you who don't know, Mr. Pastore has been working on some projects with identifying Combative Techniques in the Scottish Dirk Dance and relating it to the few sources that we have on the nature of the Dirks use in Scotland. It's a new idea to me but one that has been interesting to read about. I'd be very interested in seeing the dance actually performed to get a more clear picture of how the movements work.

Im anxious to learn more about this.

Welcome!
"Why is there a picture of a man with a sword in his head on your desk?" -friends inquiry

User avatar
louie Pastore
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 pm
Location: Inverclyde

Re: West of Scotland...

Postby louie Pastore » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:52 pm

Hi Allen... thanks for the intro :D .
Unfortunately I cannot claim to be the co-writer, my contribution to Chris' book was just in my research into the application of the Dirk Dance and details I'd posted on the Cateran forum... I'm hoping to get a copy soon!

I'm hoping to do something more detailed regarding the Dirk Dance and it's applications, the dirk fencing as described by Willie Baxter, singlestick and also loads of stuff on Scottish unarmed combat....

Cheers!
Louie
Last edited by louie Pastore on Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Allen Johnson
Posts: 638
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:43 am
Location: Columbia, SC

Postby Allen Johnson » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:36 am

any sources available on Willie Baxter? That name is a new one on me. It's really interesting to me to compare some of the work in Mr. Thompson's new book and compare it to Mr. Vail's recent Dagger book. Just because I've had more exposure to it, the German and Italian stuff seems to make a bit more sense, but that may change with my practicing more.

I'm looking forward to your contributions to our forum.
"Why is there a picture of a man with a sword in his head on your desk?" -friends inquiry

Ben Michels
Posts: 18
Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:57 pm
Location: York, Pennsylvania USA

Re: West of Scotland...

Postby Ben Michels » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:51 am

louie wrote:
As my email is already registered under my name it won't allow me to re-register.... Any suggestions?[/b]

Louie


I believe you can click on 'Profile' at the top and just change your user name.

User avatar
louie Pastore
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 pm
Location: Inverclyde

Re: West of Scotland...

Postby louie Pastore » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:22 pm

Ben Michels wrote:I believe you can click on 'Profile' at the top and just change your user name.


Thanks Ben....

That seems to have done the trick, apologies to the Mods for the hassle!

Any chance I could have my original request for training partners in the West of Scotland re-instated at the top of this thread?

Louie

User avatar
louie Pastore
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 pm
Location: Inverclyde

Mr Baxter Traditional Backhold Coach

Postby louie Pastore » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:42 pm

Allen Johnson wrote:any sources available on Willie Baxter? That name is a new one on me. It's really interesting to me to compare some of the work in Mr. Thompson's new book and compare it to Mr. Vail's recent Dagger book. Just because I've had more exposure to it, the German and Italian stuff seems to make a bit more sense, but that may change with my practicing more.

I'm looking forward to your contributions to our forum.


Hi Allen

Mr Baxter is Scotland's top backhold wrestling coach, while visiting his class a few times to research & experience a bit of this traditional wrestling we got into a conversation about the dirk dance and my theory that a lot of the footwork & arm positions of this and other Highland dances relates to techniques in folk wrestling such as backhold, collar & elbow and Icelandic (Viking Glima).
After demonstrating the dance Mr Baxter told me that as a youngster in the 1950's ex-Scottish army veterans used to organise summer camps in which one of the activities was 'fencing' with practice dirks. Participants wore a protective glove, stood side on and aimed cuts at each other's wrist. (The dirk was held point up & apparently kicks to the opponent's leg were allowed).
Whether this practice evolved during the WWI & II wars or is something a lot older I don't know but it does tie in with some of the steps and dirk positions of the dance.

Louie

User avatar
Matt Easton
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun Nov 10, 2002 2:23 pm
Location: London, England
Contact:

Postby Matt Easton » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:35 am

Hi Louie,
You can find a list of quite a few of the British groups here:
www.bfhs.org
And I also have a bunch of links to groups here:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/links/

Best regards,
Matt

User avatar
louie Pastore
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 pm
Location: Inverclyde

Postby louie Pastore » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:13 am

Matt Easton wrote:Hi Louie,
You can find a list of quite a few of the British groups here:
www.bfhs.org
And I also have a bunch of links to groups here:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/links/

Best regards,
Matt


Hi Matt...

Many thanks for the links....
Unfortunately the closest on the list seems to be Edinburgh, which although I'd love to attend, is on the other side of Scotland and with the travelleing, a bit overbudget. :cry:

I train with two colleagues here in Inverclyde (singlestick, dirk/targe & unarmed combat) but was hoping to find WMA practicioners in Glasgow or surrounding area.

Cheers...

Louie

User avatar
Allen Johnson
Posts: 638
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:43 am
Location: Columbia, SC

Postby Allen Johnson » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:54 am

If it's any consolation, if it were economically practical, I'd move there in a minute. :)
"Why is there a picture of a man with a sword in his head on your desk?" -friends inquiry


Return to “Research and Training Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 29 guests

cron

 
 

Note: ARMA - The Association for Renaissance Martial Arts and the ARMA logo are federally registered trademarks, copyright 2001. All rights reserved. No use of the ARMA name or emblem is permitted without authorization. Reproduction of material from this site without written permission of the authors is strictly prohibited. HACA and The Historical Armed Combat Association copyright 1999 by John Clements. All rights reserved. Contents of this site 1999 by ARMA.