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Postby Kevin Peterson » Fri May 25, 2007 10:07 pm

My apologies to everyone for oversight of all of the dimentions. That has been rectified on the site, but I will post them here as well.

All three models are the exact same, except the pear pommels add two ounces more to the weight.

Overall Lenth - 47 inches
Blade Length - 36 1/4 inches
Blade Width - 2 inches down to 1 inch
Blade Thickness - Approximately 3/4 inch
Grip - 10 inches
Cross - 9 inches
Center of Balance - 5 inches from the cross
Weight - 2 pounds, 2 ounces for wheel pommel
2 ponds, 4 ounces for the pear pommel

Any more questions, i will be happy to answer them for you.

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Postby Kevin Peterson » Fri May 25, 2007 10:16 pm

Jeremy,

Both a cut and thrust, and a youth size waster are being planned as a future additions. Eric wants to concentrate on a few basic models to get started before branching out into other fun things. We will be sure to keep everyone posted.

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Postby Kevin Peterson » Fri May 25, 2007 10:24 pm

Matt,

Eric is planning on bring some wasters with him to sell at the event. Eric is allowing a limited number of pre orders for the International Event. If you get one of these slots, you can pick up your waster at the event and save the shipping fees.

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Postby JeremyDillon » Fri May 25, 2007 11:28 pm

Kevin Peterson wrote:Jeremy,

Both a cut and thrust, and a youth size waster are being planned as a future additions. Eric wants to concentrate on a few basic models to get started before branching out into other fun things. We will be sure to keep everyone posted.

Kevin Peterson
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Great! Thanks for the info and I look forward to seeing these babies in action.

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Postby Jeffrey Hull » Sat May 26, 2007 11:18 am

I think those dimensions are pretty good for a waster. Seems like thought and insight went into the design.

To contrast: I own a really nice hickory waster from one of the best makers out there, of a comparable type, a longsword design. It happens to weigh a little more, at 2.5 pounds, but has much the same dimensions, but for one crucial difference -- its balance point is 8 inches from the cross.

That wooden waster is nice and all, and the crafter did fine handiwork. But it seems that certain improvements are allowed by the use of plastic, that the plastic waster has reasonable dimensions for what it is meant to do.
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Postby Sam Nankivell » Sat May 26, 2007 4:05 pm

Kevin Peterson wrote:My apologies to everyone for oversight of all of the dimentions. That has been rectified on the site, but I will post them here as well.

All three models are the exact same, except the pear pommels add two ounces more to the weight.

Overall Lenth - 47 inches
Blade Length - 36 1/4 inches
Blade Width - 2 inches down to 1 inch
Blade Thickness - Approximately 3/4 inch
Grip - 10 inches
Cross - 9 inches
Center of Balance - 5 inches from the cross
Weight - 2 pounds, 2 ounces for wheel pommel
2 ponds, 4 ounces for the pear pommel

Any more questions, i will be happy to answer them for you.

Kevin Peterson
ARMA Appleton


Thanks for the update. It is nice to see that With Intent Wasters are very responsive to their customers (well, soon to be customers). I am looking forward to even more waster models, like a sidesword model or maybe even a two-hander. A two-hander would definitely be quite cool!
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Cores?

Postby Sam Nankivell » Sun May 27, 2007 4:02 pm

I think it was on another forum where someone suggested using these wasters as a core in a new design for contact weaponry. Perhaps if the blade was thinned out and high impact foam was added to the edges, it would be possible.

Has anyone in ARMA considered this?
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Postby JeremyDillon » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:28 pm

If no one has noticed, it appears as if arming swords are now available from the website. *glee*

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Re: Cores?

Postby Jake_Norwood » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:40 pm

Sam Nankivell wrote:I think it was on another forum where someone suggested using these wasters as a core in a new design for contact weaponry. Perhaps if the blade was thinned out and high impact foam was added to the edges, it would be possible.

Has anyone in ARMA considered this?


I'd be interested in seeing one, but I'm skeptical. If you watch the videos of people sparring with them, you'll see they have a little whip to them as is. Add some weight to that structure, and I think they'll be quite whippy.

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Re: Cores?

Postby Jason Taylor » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:38 am

Jake_Norwood wrote:
Sam Nankivell wrote:I think it was on another forum where someone suggested using these wasters as a core in a new design for contact weaponry. Perhaps if the blade was thinned out and high impact foam was added to the edges, it would be possible.

Has anyone in ARMA considered this?


I'd be interested in seeing one, but I'm skeptical. If you watch the videos of people sparring with them, you'll see they have a little whip to them as is. Add some weight to that structure, and I think they'll be quite whippy.

Jake


Well, I've had my plastic waster from With Intent for a few weeks now, and I can speak to this a little bit. What I've encountered isn't so much whip as flex, and only in the correct plane. HOWEVER, the one I have is quite thick, and probably couldn't be padded sufficiently to make it safe and still a reasonably proportional weapon. Thinner and narrower might work, but the flex might then graduate into whip.

As is, though, it's great waster, just to be clear. I don't normally buy equipment (I make my own stuff, including the waster I'm now giving to my brother) but this is better. Way better. My group organizer has already made a couple of discoveries about realistic sliding actions and so forth using the plastic, or using his wooden one against it. I'm actually going to standardize on plastic equipment now--though I'm a little concerned about UV sensitivity. It's probably a good idea to keep them under a cloth out of doors when not in use.
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