Question on various armours and weapons

[philippewillaume]

Hello
Well Ringeck is full of aikido technique, ikkio/gonkio, sankio, nikkio, hije jime/rokkio, Aiki-otoshi tenchi (with variation at the leg instead of the head, kaiten. Shomen-ate, Gyakugamae-ate .
The bone breaker at the arms are all variation of shihonague (the one against a grap or stike beineg a mix between shiho nagiue and kote gaishi)
But you have a nice starigh kote gaishi on horse….)
And the bone breaker at the kef are the aikido defence against kick I have been taught.

Of course there are putting as much koshi-nague in every technique as they can. (why let the guy land nicely after all)

Aikido leaves you the choice of avoiding, throwing, pinning or breaking.

Now we must say that all akido are not martially equal, and some are most intesested in the spiritual aspect/peac aspect.
Practiced in that way the martial aspect is very often a second concerned so the usability of technique demonstrated is often one remove from the nastier version of the technique.

phil

[Shane Smith]

Hello
Well Ringeck is full of aikido technique, ikkio/gonkio, sankio, nikkio, hije jime/rokkio, Aiki-otoshi tenchi (with variation at the leg instead of the head, kaiten. Shomen-ate, Gyakugamae-ate .
The bone breaker at the arms are all variation of shihonague (the one against a grap or stike beineg a mix between shiho nagiue and kote gaishi)
But you have a nice starigh kote gaishi on horse….)
And the bone breaker at the kef are the aikido defence against kick I have been taught.


phil

Maybe it's better said that Aikido is full of kampfringen techniques!

That said, since the human body only moves in certain ways it seems obvious that various fighting cultures the world over would share many similarities in their earnest fighting methods-especially absent the weapons forms that are unique to each. When all you have are two hands and two feet, there are only so many ways to employ them in combat unarmed.

[LafayetteCCurtis]

Kampfringen is full of aikido techniques and aikido is full of Kampfringen techniques. Let's just call that "convergent evolution," shall we?

[Neil Bockus]

but still seeing how sword and shield or maybe a big zweihander or claymore would fare against a katana would be quite interesting.

Now you've gone and peaked my interest, because that would be a neat dissimilar exercise in free play, if historically inaccurate. The two-hander is by no means slow, but it is definately slower than, say a longsword or cut-and-thrust. It's strong offensively and weak defensively, in my own small experience, but its not handled like a longsword either; it borrows from both longsword and polearm/staff techniques in its employment, and its added range and potential striking power offer a balance to its slower defense. When I first started studying the weapon, I had read in JC's Medieval Swordsmanship that some attacks and stances for the longsword were simply impracticle or impossible with the true two-hander, and have since experienced this in practice, but have found those other techniques (staff, etc) highly useful; you don't have to kill someone with the blade alone. Maybe after FT I'll take on my house-mate; he's a katana practitioner...of course as anyone can tell you, the result really just shows either the skill or in some cases luck of the combatants, not superiority of the weapon. I'd just really like to test it out!

[philippewillaume]

Kampfringen is full of aikido techniques and aikido is full of Kampfringen techniques. Let's just call that "convergent evolution," shall we?

ho yes, as shane said since we all have the same type of arms and that the said type of arms can not bend a certain way .....

phil