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Using the Heather Shield

Postby Martin Lysen » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:21 am

Hello all.

I wonder if there is any source material available regarding the use of the heather shield that you are aware of. Barring this, would anyone care to share actual traning experience with an approximately shimilar shield type?

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Martin

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Postby Allen Johnson » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:14 pm

Heather? Do you possibly mean, heater?
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Postby Mars Healey » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:36 pm

This is the only site I found with a reference to a heather shield.
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Postby Martin Lysen » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:58 pm

Oh, I seem to have made a typo. Yes, I meant a heater shield.

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Postby Brian Hunt » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:52 am

We have not historical documents on the correct use of the heater shield. The closest things we have are writings on the sword and buckler and the Italian Targe. There are also German Dueling shields, but while there may be similarities, to me they are unique unto themselves.

I find that a curved heater shield is a less active defense than a flat round shield though there are lots of similarities. Any style of fighting with a shield is going to be a made up system (it may be based on historical techniques from other forms such as sword and buckler or iconographical evidence or even Italian Targe) but it will be a created style not a reconstructed one.

With that said, here is an article by Casper Bradock.

http://www.arma-ogden.org/content/view/9/30/

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Postby Aaron Kavli » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:33 am

Howdy,

While there are not any sources I know of that tell how heaters were used, there might be some useful info gleaned from the "Insight from Historical Artwork" section of this page.

http://www.thearma.org/arttalk/ArtTalk.htm

Of course you can only trust an artists rendition of things so much if not specifically under the direction of a fight master, but I went through many of those pictures. I noticed that while most bucklers are depicted at arm's length (or at least in some dynamic position), the heaters were all pulled close to the body at chin level. Allowing for the previous caveat, it leads me to believe that these shields were probably kept in close and the sword was used to displace attacks just like a buckler. Of course a fighter will move his shield as needs be, but that's the impression I get just from these pictures.

All of my heater or equivalent training experience is SCA related, not using a historically accurate shield (or if it was, it was on accident), so it will most likely result in you getting your knees and below hit often. But I can give a couple pieces of advice...

1) It is easy to blind yourself with your shield if you use it cover your head.
2) If you try to "block" with it to far away from your body, it is easy to throw it out too far and leave yourself very open.
3) They sure get heavy! But so are bucklers after a while... :lol:

Edit: I thought I'd seen something that did show heater shields being moved about, and it in the pell history article.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/pell/pellhistory.htm

I suppose one could also account for the static look in the above art section as in part being due to archers in the field.
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Postby Martin Lysen » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:47 am

Mr Hunt and mr Kavli, thank you both for your useful answers to my question. I'll try the techniques and study out the artwork both. You have been most helpful.

Cheers,

Martin Lysén

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Postby Jaron Bernstein » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:31 pm

Di Grasi shows a square shield (as well as buckler and round targe) and gives copious advise on how to best use each of them.

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Postby Martin_Wilkinson » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:24 pm

Jaron Bernstein wrote:Di Grasi shows a square shield (as well as buckler and round targe) and gives copious advise on how to best use each of them.


My understanding is that the Square Shield is more a square buckler, like the wavy ones depicted in Marozzo.
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