A call for sword and buckler advice.

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Ryan Bandics
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A call for sword and buckler advice.

Postby Ryan Bandics » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:15 pm

Recent member here, first post, looking for some sword and buckler advice.
Ive been dealing with I.33 namely The Medieval Art of Swordsmanship translation and am having some problems with "Falling under the sword" to attack half shield. I was shown by members in the Las Vegas study group the action was and attack to the wrist area, say starting from underarm, moving left and out, rolling the sword up and over, using the short, so that palm is up and covered by buckler when executed. While this seems to work well, I cant find this configuation illustrated anywhere in the text. Text shows more of a strike, palm down,or perhapes not an attack at all, but rather a placement of the sword in a covering manner, leading to a shild strike or bind.
Would like some thoughts please.
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Re: A call for sword and buckler advice.

Postby Randall Pleasant » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:16 pm

Ryan

The cut is made with the long edge. It's basically a Zorn to the forearm.
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Postby Brian Hunt » Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:06 am

Hi Ryan,

you have the basic action down, but it is a long edge descending cut at the wrist, not a short edge cut. This will lead to a few actions, either you will cut his wrist and either take it off or cut partway and be stopped by bone (much less likley), if your cut is stopped by the bone of the wrist then just follow up with a stab. If he rolls his buckler over and covers his wrist, once again follow up with a stab to the face or the chest while maintaining pressure with your long edge on your opponent's wrist or buckler.

Another action that may happen is that your opponent will give you the "Oh Crap" cover by shifting his sword to his right. If this happens you will end up in the first bind shown in the first play of the I.33 from where you can either do a stichslac, a schiltslac (as shown in the images of the first play), or seize your opponents arms with either your shield or your sword hand.

In the Second play, the opponent will correctly respond to your falling under the sword by pressing your sword down with the rebind and step instead of covering to a bind.

good luck in your training.

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