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Are there other organizations that take the same approach?

Postby Jonathan_Kaplan » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:32 pm

Hi there, are there any other organizations that take the same approach as you guys, but with weapon based martial arts from other eras and locations? Most of the eastern stuff that I see is, well, rather sport oriented or very mystical, and while those traditions are interesting, there had to be *some* time in asia where martial arts had fewer "extraneous mystical mojo" about it... right? and some martial arts organization that takes the same basic approach to understanding what was a plausible historic interpretation and all that? If anyone could point me to any other organizations (preferably that have an english website) that take the same approach as you guys, I would love to see them!

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Postby Jonathan_Kaplan » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:34 pm

So does anyone know anything like that? I would like to see if there is an organization trying to recreate the useful parts of, say, Japanese martial arts without the fluff that it has evolved into after people stopped living or dying by their utility.

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Postby Jeremiah Backhaus » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:08 pm

I will tell you the only thing I think I know and that is Hraung Do. Which is the early form of Tae Kwan Do. But that is pretty much all I know.
We all tend to specialize in the European arts, and I know in my searching I have never found anything else like us. For better results I would ask on sites that deal with the Asian martial arts.

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Postby Axel Pettersson » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:52 am

This guy seems to (I have no idea about his credibility) do the same thing with Chinese longsword: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=5

Though if you by the ARMA approach include pressure testing of techniques by full speed, full contact sparring, I have no idea if this guy does it, I would love to spar with an asian swordsman/woman though.

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Postby Alan Abu Bakr » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:43 am

Well Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do, is rather similar, but...

Well I'm not so sure if I would call it an asian marital art.
After all, it isn't a bunch of techniques, but rather a system for training martial arts. Taking techniques from any martial arts, that the practitioner learns.
Those who live by the sword will be shot by those who don't.
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Postby michael fitch » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:42 am

Axel Pettersson wrote:This guy seems to (I have no idea about his credibility) do the same thing with Chinese longsword: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=5

Though if you by the ARMA approach include pressure testing of techniques by full speed, full contact sparring, I have no idea if this guy does it, I would love to spar with an asian swordsman/woman though.


after watching the video noticed that when the chinese manuals where shown they looked a lot like the wests. in the second part of the video a lot of cuts where shown again pretty close to the west. however a reverse grip and cut was demoed, so was wondering is there any thing like that in WMA?

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Postby Jonathan_Kaplan » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:58 pm

I found this organization, and they seem to be relatively focused on the same ideal...

http://www.ztaichi.com/

Hmmm. I wonder if any ARMA people in the area might take a class and see how "on the ball" they are? Judging by their webpage, they seem to be, but you never know for sure just by a webpage...

Certainly *I* think it would be cool to learn both Chinese and Western longsword techniques...

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Postby CalebChow » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:30 pm

Axel Pettersson wrote:This guy seems to (I have no idea about his credibility) do the same thing with Chinese longsword: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=5

Though if you by the ARMA approach include pressure testing of techniques by full speed, full contact sparring, I have no idea if this guy does it, I would love to spar with an asian swordsman/woman though.


Ahh, Scott Rodell. From what I could tell he's trying to be as historical and authentic as possible, similar to ARMA in that sense.

http://grtc.org/ Is his website.

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Postby JeremyDillon » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:07 pm

I must say I was favorably impressed with that video, he looks like he's making an honest and educated attempt. Also, the statement "note that the flat is used to deflect the blow, not the edge" made me grin. Thumbs up to anyone promoting that idea!


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