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Jay Vail
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Hammaborg sword and buckler vid

Postby Jay Vail » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:01 am

Here's in interesting interpretation of the I 33.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NN6wXJzXRQ

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Jim Churches
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Postby Jim Churches » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:31 am

I wish the lighting were better, its difficult to see some of the movements in many of the clips. S&B experts - A question for you, as my knowledge here is weak. It would seem the initial attack in every clip is severely out of range, while the follow-up strike then closes to show the technique. Do you think this interpretation (beyond the initial out of range attack) holds any water? Thanks in advance.
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Benjamin Smith
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Postby Benjamin Smith » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:44 am

I'm no expert. I trained with Stu about two and a half years ago and I would have to say that these techniques are severely lacking in intent and study. Several of the attacks that should come out of 1st ward seem to be ending there. Many of them don't even require a technique to defend against, just slight movement of the arms or feet to void and aren't presenting an advantage in taking the initiative away from the opponent, which is the point of doing a technique rather than voiding. All of these problems seem to stem from a lack of intent on both sides, but particularly the attacker's.
Respectfully,

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Re: Hammaborg sword and buckler vid

Postby Randall Pleasant » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:26 pm

I strongly disagree with their interpretation of Falling Under the Sword and Shield. As best that I can tell in their interpretation from First Guard they make a rising false edge cut agains Half-Shield and then do a doubling action. It seems only common sense that the cut in Falling Under the Sword and Shield should be falling rather than rising! Cutting to the blade rather than to the man is also seen in so many other less than martially sound interpretaitons of Fall Under the Sword and Shield (ie. such as those by Stephen Hand, Sean Hays, etc).
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