New Fiore in Paris

[Fabrice Cognot]

Well, not new Fiore actually, as no period manuscript is really new. This one was hidden in plain sight, that's it.

I stumbled upon it while searching this image bank for pictures of tournaments and fights. Heheh.

Go there (god I hadn't been using this website for ages, as the previous version was crap)
http://images.bnf.fr/jsp/index.jsp?c...on=accueil.jsp

and type 11269 in the search field.

And Voilà.



And it's just a mere 2 hours by train from my place.

[Randall Pleasant]

Fabrice

Great news! May it provide all of us many new insights.

Thanks for letting us know.

[Corey Roberts]

Wow, it's always amazing when something new like this is discovered.

[Audra Grapes]

Cool! They labeled the date as circa 1410...is that just based on Flos Duellatorum in Armis?

[steve hick]

Cool! They labeled the date as circa 1410...is that just based on Flos Duellatorum in Armis?

Likely, although it appears there is no date within it that I could see, and it does not reference Niccolo d'Este. I think internal evidence of a artistic style, armor and weapons, as well as its conformance with other material (some of it appears to have some divergence from the methods of the other 3 of which we know, e.g., the exchange of thrusts with the spear), and a possible statement about Fiore (that he possibly may be deceased at this point in time) lead some to believe this is the latest of the ones attributed to Fiore, perhaps 1420-1430. It bears a lot of similarity to some derived material (Vadi) but its weaker for other (von Eyb) so its upper bracket is 1482-1487, and it's not that new.

Steve