where to go with european martial arts

[Frederico Martins]

I would like to read that book if i have the opportunity, specially if it refers directly to staff.

I agree that would be nice to have books and even better, videos about it, but thats not the way to preserve this kind of things. If it gets to only that, its already lost and is only partially recoverable, and with great effort, as I understand most of you are doing, in an admirable way with sword and other medieval weapons.

It is a great job and a new light on something that was deep buried and I understand that kind of material would be great in this situation, but i hope jogo do pau doesn't get down to that, it would be a great lost.

[Sal Bertucci]

Which is why you should take steps to preserve it via some type of media now, while everything is still true and correct, as opposed to the whole group waiting for 50 years of degeneration before thinking it might be a good idea. You don't even have to publish them, but HAVING them would be invaluable.

[Tyrone Artur Budzin]

Frederico,

Stacy got it right. I actually envy you for having masters who are still alive and practicing this art among those who are willing to learn, we on the other hand do not have this privilege. Fortunately much of the German system, which I focus on, was preserved in literature as well as the other European arts. If these had not then everything would have been lost to the ages.

The question now is if its worth the risk not to preserve your art in books or media. I understand from what your saying you think its better to pass on this knowledge from one person to another. Yes this is good but what if something unexpected happens to the people who hold this knowledge? Not trying to be a pessimist here, I just like to point out the chance of misfortune.

Just my 2 cents on this.

[Jaron Bernstein]

Which is why you should take steps to preserve it via some type of media now, while everything is still true and correct, as opposed to the whole group waiting for 50 years of degeneration before thinking it might be a good idea. You don't even have to publish them, but HAVING them would be invaluable.

Agree. There is the tale told of an AMA style master in the early 1900's (a style I got started in martial arts with) who was crying on his deathbed because much of his art was dying with him since he never showed it to anyone or otherwise recorded it.

[Frederico Martins]

I understand that point and for me is also very important that kind of material is created, Luis Preto published a book, and I know he started to work on something else too (I also insist on him for that), master Nuno Russo is regularly updating the technical program doc, and i wish there was more stuff. But the point is that if it only gets to that, then there are things that aren't able to be preserved in books or even videos and that value is much harder to understand from the beginning, even if you theoretically understand it, and even harder to reach from this kind of documents. well, i guess you understand what i'm saying, and i sure understand your position.

there is videos and information on it, and there will be more for the future, if it ever gets lost in that way, but for me the important thing now is to not let that happen to one more wma, not only because i t has historical or cultural value but because it has more combat value than anything ive seen out there with staff or baton.

To compliment that, im not saying that the Portuguese were superior fighters of unimaginable powers, but luckly it reached us this day still in this stage. Even more than staff asian arts reached us today, or at least still in a more combat realistic way without being processed of form-alized.
I believe it can go on without losing that and without having to end up in books(even if it does as a compliment)

[Sal Bertucci]

As long as something is being done to preserve it from unfortunate mishaps.