Runa Glima ???

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Vagelis Baltatzis
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Postby Vagelis Baltatzis » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:03 am

Hallo Tyrone

look Icelandic Glima is not exactly Runa Glima. I mean Runa Glima is not a style of Glima .

Runa Glima is different martial art , who is evolved from Glima .
For example like traditional ju jutzu and modern judo ....

Glima has 3 styles . trousergrip(belt wrestling), hryspenna(backhold wrestling) and lausatoek wrestling (free wrestling who is in some places of Scandinavia trained as selfdefense with striking elements..)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glima

http://www.viking-glima.com/



And now to Runa Glima : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runa_Glima

Wikipedia say that Runa Glima is evolved from the selfdense variation of Glima Lausatoek Glima.

http://runaglima.webs.com/aboutus.htm this is the webside of Runa Glima and there you can communicate with Mr. Weber( the trainer of Runa Glima) if you wish to learn more about Runa Glima ...



Yes I am also very interested in Ringen . I find Ringen is truly effective , and despite that this art is largely forgotten the techniques of the manuals are awesome and I believe thay have a very great beneficing for the modern selfdefense.... As I read for the first time the preface of the ''Vollstaendiges Ringbuch'' from Johann Georg von Paschen (1659) , it makes my skin crawl ....

those few words are the standart problem of the world ... sadly everyone relied on size and strength , but he feels in danger if he is confronted to a smaller man trained in a good and effective martial art ( in this case Ringen) ...

if you have more questions , please ask more .....

best regards
Vag

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Postby Gene Tausk » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:21 pm

Vagelis Baltatzis wrote:Hallo Tyrone

look Icelandic Glima is not exactly Runa Glima. I mean Runa Glima is not a style of Glima .

Runa Glima is different martial art , who is evolved from Glima .
For example like traditional ju jutzu and modern judo ....

Glima has 3 styles . trousergrip(belt wrestling), hryspenna(backhold wrestling) and lausatoek wrestling (free wrestling who is in some places of Scandinavia trained as selfdefense with striking elements..)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glima

http://www.viking-glima.com/



And now to Runa Glima : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runa_Glima

Wikipedia say that Runa Glima is evolved from the selfdense variation of Glima Lausatoek Glima.

http://runaglima.webs.com/aboutus.htm this is the webside of Runa Glima and there you can communicate with Mr. Weber( the trainer of Runa Glima) if you wish to learn more about Runa Glima ...



Yes I am also very interested in Ringen . I find Ringen is truly effective , and despite that this art is largely forgotten the techniques of the manuals are awesome and I believe thay have a very great beneficing for the modern selfdefense.... As I read for the first time the preface of the ''Vollstaendiges Ringbuch'' from Johann Georg von Paschen (1659) , it makes my skin crawl ....

those few words are the standart problem of the world ... sadly everyone relied on size and strength , but he feels in danger if he is confronted to a smaller man trained in a good and effective martial art ( in this case Ringen) ...

if you have more questions , please ask more .....

best regards
Vag


Yeah, funny that. "Glima" is an Icelandic word, and indeed, the practice of Glima was limited to Iceland until very recently. Yet, this "Runa Glima" stuff seems to be British and uses English for its terms.

I don't suppose there is any written record of this stuff. It would be even better if it was written in Icelandic. After all, that is not asking too much since Iceland has some of the most extensive and finest literature from the Medieval period onwards.

But, then again, since "Runa" is Old Norse for "secret" and since the founder of this alleged system was a god or deity, I suppose there is nothing. All of this sounds painfully similar to "Stav."

Yes, I am skeptical. Sounds like some more mumbo-jumbo which latched on to the legitimate system of actual Glima for recognition.

This also sounds like the "Fotan" nonsense which martial arts writer John Gilbey fabricated to show the gullibility of people.
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Postby Vagelis Baltatzis » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:29 am

Hallo Gene

it is good if you are sceptic. I am also sceptic about many things . Not only martial arts , but about many things as politic, history, warfare etc.

I am not a ''Runa Glima master'' , I want only informed the ARMA that is exist a the martial art with the name ''Runa Glima''.

In the internetside of Runa Glima are informations and if you like you can communicate with Mr. Weber the man who teach this system for more informations ....

Traditional Glima has a great use from runes , it is a martial culture like other asian arts.

In the wikipedia is written about ''Runa Glima'' that Glima was brought to Europe from settlers and that is evolved with other elements of medieval european martial arts.

Actually I think that the Runes of the ancient Norse cultures , it is believed that they were given from the gods( from Wodan) ..... and I think that other traditional asian arts have also elements of religion and of their culture( for example the ancient olympic games were a tribut to the gods and ancient pancration was believed that it was from Heracles or from Theseus ) , but it is very good if you are sceptic ...

Best regards
Vag

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Postby Tyrone Artur Budzin » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:16 pm

Hi Vagelis,

Thanks for the information and links you have provided. I do have to concur with Gene though, more proof is needed to validate a system. If you look at Ringen there is more than enough literature around to prove the system existed. I do hope the same historical material can be provided to shun the skeptics of this art.
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Postby Vagelis Baltatzis » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:00 pm

Hallo Tyrone

yes I understand you sceptic and you arguments ...

If I find more informations about this art , than I will post them here

Best regards
Vagelis


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