What I expect and find in Western Martial Art.

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What I expect and find in Western Martial Art.

Postby Joshua Immanuel Gani » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:24 pm

After reading and understanding many medieval and renaissance manual, I realized that this Western martial art is a very good system of combat. It is Unique and powerful, but regrettably forgotten.

I apologize if I ever misunderstood or insult WMA.

I have a few question regarding several manuals and fighting techniques.

1. In the Codex Wallerstein in the first two section ( the Nuremberg Group), there is almost no person wearing armor, is the techniques supposed to be used only in unarmored fighting or not?

2. The first time I see and read the techniques I was amazed that there is many examples of grappling in longsword and dagger fighting.
If longsword and medieval dagger is light and properly balanced and therefore can be used blindingly fast, then grappling in reality would be very dangerous, right( if there is two contradictory things, both cannot be true)? They will be killed before they got close enough, I think. :?

" This weapon (longsword) is surprisingly light, capable of making blindingly fast attacks, and is suitable for both cut and thrusts."
- Medieval Combat Talhoffer's Manual from 1467


See Talhoffer's manual, Berlin Sketchbook, Codex wallerstein all include grappling with bladed weapons (and also Gladiatoria, but they are in armor).

In practicing I try to use grappling moves and I am convinced that they are useful in their own right, but I still confused why they must be used?

What is your opinion?

3.Is it better to study from complete manual like Fiore, Talhoffer, Walpurgis Fechtbuch (that is the best I can otain now) or should I also learn from uncomplete manuals like Goliathand and Uber die Fechtkunst und Ringkampf (Hans Czynner)?

4. Now I study the Viking Saga and Glima to at least imagine what personal Viking warfare look like,but in the film Pathfinder, Outlander, and most other "Viking" movie they use two handed swords and Dane Axes frequently and often without skill just like swinging it wildly, of course I know this is not true at all.
The Vikings use their axe and swords in the way that I doesn't even think possible. There is mention of bodies cut in half by their swords and axes.

But then there is also mention of using a single handed sword two handedly, how is this possible?



That is my questions and later I think I can get more knowledge here.

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