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Eddie Smith
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Fiore cuts

Postby Eddie Smith » Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:34 pm

Where can I find a complete online list of the cuts listed in Flos? I want Latin if possible, but must be legible, all my copies have bad res and I cannot make out the words. I train mostly in Fiore and would like to be able to complete my vocab.

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Rob Lovett
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Re: Fiore cuts

Postby Rob Lovett » Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:39 pm

Eddie, Fiore is written in Italian not Latin. The prologue of the Novati (pisani-dosi) is latin only.

The cuts are:
Fendente - traveling from the teeth to the knees, downward cleaving blows.
Sottani - Upward cuts traveling the path of the Fendenti, preferably false edge, not true.
Mezani - horizontal cuts delivered between the path of the Fendenti and Sottani, ie between the knee and the teeth. True edge from the right, False edge from the left.
Punte - thrust

The actual strikes are known as Colpi (strikes, blows) and tagli (cuts, slices).

Is this what you were after?

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Rob

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Re: Fiore cuts

Postby Matt Easton » Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:34 pm

Hi Eddie,

Rob's pretty much covered it.

The Getty version of Fior di Battaglia is written in north-eastern vulgar Italian and it says (loosely translated):

"We are Colpi Fendente (Cleaving Blows), and in the art our function is to cut the teeth and go to the knee with reasoning. And every ground (low?) guard which is done, we go from one guard to the other without trouble. And we will break the guards with intellegence. With the blows we will make a blood sign. We, Fendente, will not wait to injure, and we return in guard at every movement.

We are the Colpi Sottani (Under blows), and we start from the knee, and go until the centre of the forehead, through the path of the Fendente. And in that path we climb; by that road we return; or we will remain in Posta Longa.

We are called Colpi Mezzani (Middle Blows), because we go in the middle of Colpi Soprani (High Blows) and Sottani (Under). We go with the right edge (true edge) to the right, and with the false edge to the left. And our path is from the knee to the head.

We are the cruel and mortal Punte (thrusts). And our path goes up the middle of the body, starting from the ------- to the forehead. And we are thrusts with four functions, which are two Soprane (high), one on one side, the other on the other side, and two low ones in the same way; one on one side, the other on the other one. And one in the middle, which is Mezza Porta di Ferro, or Posta Lunga and Breve."

You might also find this useful from my site: http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery/album27

All the best,

Matt

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Eddie Smith
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Re: Fiore cuts

Postby Eddie Smith » Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:48 pm

I don't know why I said Latin, just a mind fart I guess. That should do it Unless you guys are hiding something.


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