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Ochs longsword video review

Postby Jay Vail » Sat Mar 27, 2004 5:52 am

Fellow ARMA members,

I received my copy of Johann Heim’s Ochs Longsword video yesterday. I thought you might be interested in a brief review.

This is an excellent video and well worth the wait and the price. It succinctly surveys the fundamental techniques of the Lichtenaur school of the German longsword. The production values are good. Little time is wasted on artsy intros and displays. We get right to the cool stuff. The two men illustrating the techniques demonstrate a high degree of technical mastery. Their movements during free flowing exercises which begin and end the video and intersperse the instructional segments are quite beautiful to watch.

The video begins with footwork, demonstrating the five ways of stepping: passing, the triangle, the slide, the hidden step, and the lunge. As with most of the instructional segments, the movements are repeated and then shown again from a separate angle.

The video then covers the main guards and then the eight ways to cut, followed by the slices and the thrusts. These are shown against the air and against a partner armed and unarmed.

The master cuts are given detailed treatment and will be a useful reference to any student who seeks to master them. It is helpful to see them performed against various attacks, for their usefulness is more clear to me now than it has been. I was particularly impressed by the versatility of the krumphau, which I had not appreciated so much before.

The video also shows how to use the thrust as a stop hit before the opponent strikes, and how to use ochs and pflug as major deflections of just about any strike and then follow with a thrust. JC covered this use of ochs and pflug at a couple of seminars I have attended, but his instruction hadn’t quite sunk in until now, when the light finally went on.

Here and there, the video briefly (rather too briefly for my taste but that’s a quibble) illustrates practice methods for working the cuts, the master cuts against the guards, and the thrusts. They look like good exercises.

At the end, the video gives us a taste of the more advanced techniques, which involve working from the bind and throwing. Also, the video showed a few dagger techniques and made the point so many often forget that the sword is just one tool of the warrior, and that he needs to master grappling, the dagger and the lance to be completely prepared for combat. You can’t just learn the sword.

The two main differences ARMA members are likely to have with the film are in the way ochs and vom tag are performed. The ochs is shown with the flat parallel to the ground rather than we recommend, with an edge toward the ground. Vom tag is shown with the cross held at armpit level rather than at the head. This is sure to spark some heated debate, but for those who think this approach is wrong, don’t let that distract you from the value of the remainder of the video.

I wish the video was available in a DVD rather than VHS.

There is one major defect: IT NEEDS TO BE LONGER! WE WANT MORE!

Good work, Hans. I can’t wait for the next one.

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby John_Clements » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:45 am

Excellent. Great to know it's commercially available at last. This is a must have I think for everyone. Congrats to Hans & Alex.
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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby kyle cook » Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:06 am

Could you please put the E-mail adddress. I would like to order a copy.

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby Hans Heim » Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:44 am

Hi Jay,

thank you for this good review. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

Alexander Kiermayer and I are planning to produce a second video/DVD about German longsword.
With advanced principles and techniques, with more practice methods and less trumpets.
<img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />
At this time perhaps with an american production company.

Servus.

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby Randall Pleasant » Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:52 am

The two main differences ARMA members are likely to have...
Jay

I think both Hans and Alex are ARMA members. That was a great review. I can't wait to get a copy.


Hans &amp; Alex

Thanks for the hard work and quality you put into your video.
Ran Pleasant

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby leam hall » Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:19 pm

Is the first going to come out on DVD?
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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby Hans Heim » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:55 am

Hi Leam,

not until we earned the production costs of the video. Alex and I are not willing to throw more money into the wide open mouth of our production company. <img src="/forum/images/icons/mad.gif" alt="" />

But there are other companys and Alex and I have a lot of interesting ideas. <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby Francisco Uribe » Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:02 pm

I assume that the video is in German, or is it also available in English?

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby Hans Heim » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:00 am

Hi Francisco,

You can buy it in German (with a very horrible Bavarian accent) or you can buy it in English (With avery horrible Bavarian accent). <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

You can order it in every system you need. Pal,NTSC or what ever.

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby Hans Heim » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:03 am

Hi Randall,

nice to hear from you. Only I am ARMA member, Alex is only a friend of ARMA.

Thank you, it was fun to produce the video. Selling it is not such a fun. <img src="/forum/images/icons/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Servus

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby Jay Vail » Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:51 am

Hans, yer welcome for the review. It's a great video. I hope you make a million dollars and produce plenty more videos/dvds. The Bavarian English just adds to the atmosphere. (my german would make you cringe, and you'd die if you heard my brother mangle Deutsch).

Haben sie eine gutte tag! <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

PS, some of the segments ought to show the theatrical fight community how exciting true longsword techniques can be for the stage and screen. This video needs to be brought to fight directors' attention somehow.

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Re: Ochs longsword video review

Postby James_Knowles » Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:37 am

English version, NTSC-video, approx. 45 minutes

€ 35,- / Payment in advance - www.paypal.com
plus € 13,00 shipping / USA
Please order by e-mail


OK, I know I'm slow. I found the right thing to click on at the web site, but I have no clue what e-mail address. Could anybody give me pointers?
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